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From: Jenda Krynicky [mailto:Jenda@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sun 4/27/2008 3:11 AM
To: Michael Barnes
Subject: RE: Creating PID file
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Subject: RE: Creating PID file
Date sent: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:49:23 -0700
From: "Michael Barnes" <MBarnes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: <beginners@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> My apologies. I know this is a cross-platform group, and that is
> fine. However, if you are unable to understand simple Linux
> terminology, then it is doubtful that you can help answer my question.
> If the description is nonsense to you, then please don't waste your
> or my time in an apparent slam on my choice of operating systems. If
> your reply represents the general attitude of this list, then it looks
> like I've come to the wrong place for assistance.=20
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> But, to simplify my request, a pid is a process id. In Linux, the =
command 'ps' will give a listing of process IDs.
> I need the script to determine its own pid, then write that to a file.
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> Thanks,
> Michael
I find THIS email pretty rude.
There is nothing inherently Unix specific about finding the process=20
id, writing it into a file (in whatever format) and possibly deleting=20
it when the script exits. If you said what you wanted to acomplish,=20
you'd get a help much sooner. And where did you find any slam of your=20
OS choice is beyond me.
If this is your general attitude in mailing lists I would not be=20
surprised if you had to change lists quite often.
Jenda
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What, do people think? :-)
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Interesting. I post a question looking for assistance. I am promptly =
chastised for my terminology, then told what I am trying to do is =
nonsense, and I'M the rude one?
Well, let's see. In my original post, I said "I need to have my script =
create a pidfile." and "I need my script to create a pidfile when it =
starts." That is what I need to accomplish. I thought it was pretty =
clear.
Instead of assistance, I'm told "your post is heavy with Unix =
terminology." I guess that the terms "pid" "pidfile" and "ps" are only =
used by very deeply experienced Unix programmers. But, Jenda says =
"There is nothing inherently Unix specific about finding the process=20
id, writing it into a file", so it is unclear whether the terms "pid" =
"pidfile" are "heavy Unix terminology" or not.
As far as "where did you find any slam of your OS choice is beyond me", =
apparently you didn't read the posts very well. First he says "your =
post is heavy with Unix terminology.", which tells me he believes I am =
using Unix (actually, I use Linux), then he says "'comparing the pid in =
the pidfile with ps' is nonsense." So, I guess if he doesn't understand =
it, it is nonsense.
If I saw a request for help that was obviously involving a programming =
language or OS I did not understand, I would simply ignore it and move =
on. I certainly would not chastise the originator for using terms I =
personally do not understand, and I definitely would not refer to =
functions as nonsense just be cause I don't happen to be familiar with =
them.
I don't change lists very often. I am a member of quite a few mailing =
lists. But I have never been treated like this on any list before. I =
guess my original assumption was right, "This may be a bit advanced for =
a beginner's group."
Michael


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