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Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html

by eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Elaine Ashton) Apr 28, 2008 at 01:25 PM

On 28 Apr, 2008, at 12:22, Richard Foley wrote:
> Well, I started to revise it myself once, but didn't get much of an  
> answer
> from anywhere about how to take it on either.  I wasn't offered my  
> own new
> wiki-thread though, maybe I didn't ask the right person...

What, did you have problems finding my email address, too? :)

>>
> Sure, I can see what you mean, and that sounds very altruistic, to  
> keep
> Elaine's material 'on file' so to speak.  It's a highly defensible  
> position,
> on the face of it, but in reality, we all know what being quietly  
> side-lined
> means.

History repeats itself time and time again. You get the people you  
deserve by the silent majority remaining silent. Just like all the  
politics inside Parrot. The silent remain silent and things continue  
on just as they did in the days of P5P. For years many have  
plaintively commented as to why there are so few women in perl,  
especially when compared to other projects, and you need only look to  
yourselves.

There were any number of more tactful methods to do what has been  
done here, but the way of Perl is to get the knife and twist it hard  
because feeling good about any contribution must not be allowed. And  
the silent sit there and let it happen. Jarkko's thanks after 5 years  
leading up to 5.8 was a lot of *****ing about 'core bloat'.

The parting '**** you' is the perl way.

e.
 




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Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-26 20:39:50 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-26 19:53:23 
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eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-26 21:05:01 
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andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-26 21:20:29 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-26 23:00:22 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-26 22:40:47 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
chris@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-26 23:03:16 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-27 12:24:23 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 09:41:38 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
chris@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-26 22:52:44 
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eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 09:40:26 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
chris@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-27 08:58:08 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 11:33:39 
Moving forward with history
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-27 12:58:29 
Re: Moving forward with history
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 15:22:40 
Re: Moving forward with history
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-27 19:37:15 
Re: Moving forward with history
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 21:02:07 
Re: Moving forward with history
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-28 15:35:30 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
cbrandt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 15:46:07 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 22:43:35 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
Richard.Foley@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-28 11:47:00 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
Richard.Foley@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-28 16:33:42 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-28 09:23:35 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
Richard.Foley@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-28 18:22:40 
Re: There is no cabal
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-28 11:41:00 
Re: There is no cabal
Richard.Foley@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-28 18:49:16 
Re: There is no cabal
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-28 12:00:56 
Re: There is no cabal
philippe.bruhat@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-28 19:54:33 
[JOKE] Re: There is no cabal
shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 21:34:22 
Re: There is no cabal
Peter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-28 13:46:02 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 13:25:57 
Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTime
shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 09:14:21 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
Richard.Foley@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 08:40:10 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
autarch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 10:41:17 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-05-01 11:46:14 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
autarch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 12:06:02 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
autarch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 16:45:56 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
autarch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 18:22:10 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-02 09:35:52 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-05-02 09:06:33 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 19:03:23 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 15:55:11 
Re: There is no cabal
alan@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-28 10:57:59 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 13:12:56 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 18:26:21 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating
dave@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-05-02 09:12:31 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
aaron.trevena@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-02 10:21:57 

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