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Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html

by Richard.Foley@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Foley) Apr 28, 2008 at 06:22 PM

On Monday 28 April 2008 18:03:23 Shlomi Fish wrote:
>
> > > http://www.shlomifish.org/perl-timeline-temp/PerlTimeline.html
> >
> > Excellent work.
> 
> Thanks.
>
Well, I started to revise it myself once, but didn't get much of an answer

from anywhere about how to take it on either.  I wasn't offered my own new

wiki-thread though, maybe I didn't ask the right person...

> No, it's not about perl6 vs. perl5. It's about the original Timeline by 
> Elaine vs. a new timeline (for Perl, probably both 5 and 6
>
As you might realise, I'm reading between the lines a bit, and it's
perhaps 
not perl5/perl6, (that was a bit of a wide swipe), but it's the same
people 
and cliques we're talking about.

> > I mean, Elaine sounds a bit pissed off, but I'm not really surprised
when
> > she gets her project whipped from under her feet.  
> 
> That was not my intention, but may have seem like it. 
> 
I realise that you had not intended to make this much of an issue out it,
or 
to trample on another (if aged) project.  As I see it, it's happened that 
way, because of choices people-in-power have made as to how to react to 
someone who disagrees with them.  And particularly to those people who are

outside of the current magic-circle.

> > I don't see why we have to trash the old stuff, just because certain 
> > people have positions of power and can (ab-)use it to side-step the
issue.
> 
> We're not going to remove the old timeline. Also, I'd like to continue 
> updating it, and hopefully Elaine will accept my modifications. 
>
Sure, I can see what you mean, and that sounds very altruistic, to keep 
Elaine's material 'on file' so to speak.  It's a highly defensible
position, 
on the face of it, but in reality, we all know what being quietly
side-lined 
means.  

-- 
Richard Foley
Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen

http://www.rfi.net/
 




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Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-26 20:39:50 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-26 19:53:23 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-26 21:05:01 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-26 21:20:29 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-26 23:00:22 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-26 22:40:47 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
chris@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-26 23:03:16 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-27 12:24:23 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 09:41:38 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
chris@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-26 22:52:44 
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eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 09:40:26 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
chris@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-27 08:58:08 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 11:33:39 
Moving forward with history
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-27 12:58:29 
Re: Moving forward with history
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 15:22:40 
Re: Moving forward with history
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-27 19:37:15 
Re: Moving forward with history
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 21:02:07 
Re: Moving forward with history
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-28 15:35:30 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
cbrandt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 15:46:07 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 22:43:35 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
Richard.Foley@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-28 11:47:00 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
Richard.Foley@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-28 16:33:42 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-28 09:23:35 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
Richard.Foley@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-28 18:22:40 
Re: There is no cabal
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-28 11:41:00 
Re: There is no cabal
Richard.Foley@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-28 18:49:16 
Re: There is no cabal
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-28 12:00:56 
Re: There is no cabal
philippe.bruhat@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-28 19:54:33 
[JOKE] Re: There is no cabal
shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 21:34:22 
Re: There is no cabal
Peter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-28 13:46:02 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 13:25:57 
Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTime
shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 09:14:21 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
Richard.Foley@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 08:40:10 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
autarch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 10:41:17 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-05-01 11:46:14 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
autarch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 12:06:02 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
autarch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 16:45:56 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
autarch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 18:22:10 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-02 09:35:52 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/Perl
andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-05-02 09:06:33 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 19:03:23 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 15:55:11 
Re: There is no cabal
alan@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-28 10:57:59 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 13:12:56 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating
eashton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 18:26:21 
Re: Women in Perl [was Re: Updating
dave@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-05-02 09:12:31 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
aaron.trevena@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-02 10:21:57 

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