Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html

On 27 Apr, 2008, at 15:43, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>
> I agree that advocacy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 can become a bit political,  
> especially since
> I've joined.

Perl is little but politics. The same social dysfunctions that  
existed at the announcement of the P6 fork that led me to say that it  
would never come to fruition still exist, much like, say, this entire  
thread.

> Sorry again.

What are you sorry for? The lot of you got what you wanted in the  
end, so what? It is the perl way that no good deed go unpunished.  
Sorry is a little late and a bit meaningless at this point.

> You are right that using a wiki for it may open up a wealth of  
> problems. I've
> witnessed such problems first-hand with some of my experiences on
> en.wikipedia.org, he.wikipedia.org, perl.net.au, and other wikis.

An unmoderated wiki, or even a moderated one, in a perl context in  
largely doomed on something as subjective as the history.

> You are right, I will. I should note that because of the conversion  
> to XHTML
> 1.1 (valid now) etc. the patch will be very huge, so I'll just send  
> you the
> new file. You can find it here:
>
> http://www.shlomifish.org/perl-timeline-temp/PerlTimeline.html

Thanks, I'll look at it later tonight when I have time and the urge  
to consume an entire bottle of Ardbeg has subsided. :)

> All that was said, I would still to contribute to the new Perl  
> history effort
> on the TPF wiki. While I highly commend you for the effort you've  
> put into
> the existing timeline, it's highly possible a collaboration between  
> Andy
> Lester, Chris Dolan and I (and other people of the Perl community)  
> can yeild
> something substantial and under a more usable licensing terms. We  
> are going
> to respect the copyrights owner****p of the existing timeline and  
> not re-use
> material from there directly, without your permission.

You know, that timeline has sat there for nearly a decade and I don't  
understand this bizarre BS over the license. You know, do you drive  
over the cliff before looking for a bridge?

When you get to the P6 history bits, I'll be sure to have the popcorn  
and beer ready as this will be one seriously entertaining  
flamewar. :) May the force be with you.

e.