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Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html

by shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shlomi Fish) Apr 26, 2008 at 08:28 PM

On Saturday 26 April 2008, Chris Dolan wrote:
> Shlomi,
>
> I skimmed the existing timeline and my first impression was "ugh".
> There's a lot a stuff that's unrelated to Perl ("Steven Jobs and
> Steven Wozniak found Apple Computer") and overly opinionated details
> ("Microsoft infec^H^H^Htroduces Windows to the world.").  But once I
> read on further I realized that this do***ent is quite valuable as it
> has a ton of relevant information and links.  I think it's a great
> idea to update this do***ent and I applaud your initiative.  It does
> seem like a hard task, though.

Yes.

>
> To share the work, what do you think about moving it to the wiki?  Or
> at least making the working copy be on the wiki with a "release" HTML
> version pulled off periodically (with a link back to the wiki)?

I thought about it too. The question is naturally whether we want to use
the 
MediaWiki-based http://perl.net.au/
or the Socialtext-based "Official Perl
5 
Wiki" ( http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?perl_5_wiki
). But
we 
may need to clear the legalities first, and see if we can put stuff that's

restricted commercially (as is the case for the existing timeline) there.
If 
Elaine would relicense it under a more permissive licence, that would 
certainly help, but I was unable to contact her so far (though I haven't 
tried very hard).

Assuming the legalities can be overcome, converting it to a wiki page is 
probably a good idea. However, in my history of contributing to wikis and
the 
wikimedia wikis I've ran into several wiki'ing anti-patterns that made 
contributing to wikis much less pleasant than I'd like. I can elaborate,
but 
it may be off-topic here. I suppose most of you are familiar with some of 
them.

This is regardless of the "Too many cooks spoil the broth" issue[1] that
we 
may encounter in a wiki.

In any case, I first want to get the legal status of the do***ent cleared 
before we wikify it.

Regards,

	Shlomi Fish

[1] - one thing I read about it and made me laugh is that "If a million 
Shakespeares had to write together, they would write like a monkey.",
which 
is a variation on what Steven Wright once said ( 
http://home.sprynet.com/~owl1/stevenwr.htm
). One must be careful when 
applying it, though.

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Shlomi Fish       http://www.shlomifish.org/
Rethinking CPAN - http://xrl.us/bjn7p

The bad thing about hardware is that it sometimes work and sometimes
doesn't.
The good thing about software is that it's consistent: it always does not
work, and it always does not work in exactly the same way.
 




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Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-26 18:51:39 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-26 20:00:00 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
chris@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-26 12:01:39 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-26 20:28:37 
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
chris@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-26 13:46:34 

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