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Re: learn.perl.org

by andrew@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Sweger) Oct 4, 2003 at 10:37 AM

Hi, Shlomi. We haven't heard from you (in this forum) since April. It
doesn't sound like anything has changed since then. What follows is merely
my opinion (which carries very little weight in the grand scheme of
things).

What has not changed most notably is your attitude toward addressing what
you see as problems. Most of your email dealt with simply reha****ng all
the things you see as problems and complaining about being persecuted by
the Perl community. This is not an effective means of swaying opinion. You
present little new information or encouragement that might draw others in
to even look at your work. What I heard (as in, this is the impression
left by your message): the material on learn.perl.org sucks (and by
extension, those responsible), mine is better, why doesn't anyone listen
to me or adopt my material.

I understand how frustrated you are. But I also see that you have done a
lot of work and are clearly sticking to your guns over a long period of
time. I applaud your perseverance and determination to help develop
something good for the Perl community. Since your goal (as I see it) is to
provide better learning resources for those just beginning to learn Perl,
I think the best judge of that material are the beginners. Give us good
arguments for why we want to pass along your site to the beginners we know
(through user groups, for example). Instead of insulting us, tell us why
this is a good thing for beginners.

On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote:

  [snip]

> By contrast, http://perl-begin.berlios.de/
has none of these
deficiencies.
> Yet, it is not the big wigs' endorsed site.
> 
> This poor state cannot last too long without having a bad effect on the
> community of newcomers. But how can I do anything about it, without
> responsiveness from the beginners-workers?

-- 
Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several
                                things can go wrong at once.
 




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shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-04 18:46:06 
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andrew@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2003-10-04 10:37:10 
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shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-04 20:07:26 
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john@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2003-10-04 16:12:17 
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merlyn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2003-10-04 15:17:12 
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cdevers@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-04 22:20:35 
Topic Shift to What Do Book Sales Tell Us? (from Re: learn.perl.
jadams01@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2003-10-04 18:28:28 
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shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-05 10:42:55 
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ziggy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2003-10-05 15:57:52 
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jadams01@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2003-10-05 17:23:30 
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shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-05 10:30:07 
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simon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2003-10-05 13:11:27 
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shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-05 14:19:18 
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simon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2003-10-05 14:05:29 
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shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-05 15:12:48 
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simon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2003-10-05 14:15:35 
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shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-05 15:20:47 
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autarch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-05 23:59:10 
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shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-06 12:30:14 
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autarch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-06 11:04:41 
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lnyman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2003-11-12 09:08:17 
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merlyn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2003-10-05 09:49:21 
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spoon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2003-10-05 03:12:30 
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shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-05 13:37:29 
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tadmc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2003-10-05 08:57:38 
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shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-05 16:18:35 
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shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-05 13:40:11 
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shlomif@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-05 13:58:59 
book kieretsu, was Re: learn.perl.org
cdevers@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-07 15:49:16 
OT list spam, was Re: book kieretsu, was Re: learn.perl.org
cdevers@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-11-05 22:33:06 

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