Re: Gems as key? Re: The real Ruby vs. Python.

> Michael DeHaan wrote:
>>
>> Dare I say it, but cloning CPAN near-exactly wouldn't be a bad way to
>> go.
>>
>> And that means putting RPAN (or whatever) as part of the Ruby standard
>> library, having college mirrors, doing dependancy checking, and so
>> forth.
>
> This is not quite the same thing, but...
>
> The One-Click Ruby Installer for Windows is going to include RubyGems
and
> a
> GUI interface to RubyGems. RubyGems will be in the final 1.8.2 release
of
> the installer (hopefully the GUI interface will be ready in time to be
> included as well). It is also possible that a follow-on release would
> contain RPA (and a corresponding GUI interface).
>
> Curt
>

Curt, I will hope that we can maybe release a version with RPA even
sooner. The RPA team and I are very fast hackers. I think I could have
many packages built that would seem awesome(big) in package count and QA
sup****t if anything goes wrong people have a place to nag instead of the
developers.

Dross
>
>> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:12:24 +0900, David Ross
>> <dross@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > Its Me wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >"Abe Vionas_MailingList" <mailinglist_abe@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>What it comes down to is what it's coming down to for
>> > >>me... platform maturity.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >This bites me quite often as well, though I have not given up.
>> There are
>> > >likely hordes of unwashed m***** like me, not entirely adept at
>> > >source-patch-recompile-rebuild, who never even get started
>> with Ruby because
>> > >of the kinds of issues Abe describes.
>> > >
>> > >Their loss or Ruby's? Unfortunately, probably both.
>> > >
>> > >I feel gems is one of the keys to getting past this. Gems can
>> make my local
>> > >(Windows) Ruby install feel like
>> > >  - a single plug-in system
>> > >  - pulling together 'requires'
>> > >  - incor****ating do***entation from a single starting point
>> > >  - including compatible versions and dependencies
>> > >
>> > >It would be great if gems was part of the standard Ruby
>> distribution, if RPA
>> > >could use gems as its underlying package manager (reducing
>> confusion for
>> > >newBs), and if RPA could then also take on the role of Release
>> Manager for
>> > >Ruby itself.
>> > >
>> > >Some misc thoughts:
>> > >
>> > >- Could gems ALSO cover binaries AND binary/library dependencies?
>> > >
>> > >- Could the gems RDOCs have links to some gems-aligned community
>> > >do***entation site, as someone else proposed here recently?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > RPA and RubyGems have different aspects in implementation, so it
would
>> > not be compatible/easy. Now that I have a RPA QA team for windows, we
>> > should have binaries put together soon. Good sup****t for software. :)
>> >
>> > David Ross
>> > --
>> > Hazzle free packages for Ruby?
>> > RPA is available from http://www.rubyarchive.org/
>> >
>> >
>>
>> ---
>> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>> Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 10/8/2004
>>
>
>
>