On 2007-05-25, HubbleBubble <phil_simmons@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 3. Well you could argue that protected mode is an unnecssary
> complication of linear flat addressing. Apple managed without it for
> ever. They only went Intel because of the speed.
Mac OS X is an Unix-like and fully protected. Also on PowerPC before the
Intel switch.
> and then linux only partitions the OS into two.
Two _classes_ of partitions, kernel and userspace. But userspace address
room is instantiated per app.
> If the ultimate progression of a protected OS is Vista, then god help us
> because it is has taken the protection argument to such an absurdity
that
> it is now simply denial of service software.
"protection" as in protected mode, and "protection" as in operating system
permissions are mostly unrelated.
> I think that the future of OS's is now flat and
> hardware unprotected.
I doubt it.
> Especially with 64 bit addressing - we will soon really no longer even
> have to worry about virtualisation.
With 64-bit more than ever! It makes way more sense to use memory mapped
files in a 64-bit environment!
> Dos is not dead,
Not entirely no. But the numbers are low. Very low.
> its just DPMI32 and our lovely language of preference
> doesn't sup****t it.
You mean your compiler of preference? I guess there are at least 2
(VP,FPC)
32-bit compilers that sup****t DPMI32, one of which (FPC) is still
developed
(though the dos parts only slowly, due to lacking interest/manpower)
The last Dos release is less than a month old.
http://www.freepascal.org/download.var
> V pascal is quite good and so is the DPMI32 unit once you get hold of
> it. A highly underated
VPascal is a bit dead. If you mean DPMI32 from Thomas Schatzl, I
distributed it myself for a couple of years last century.
> I don't count linux here because what ever you say and no matter how you
> wrap it its too nerdy for the masses
(so is Dos, people just didn't have the choice in that time)
> - we need something new. (MacOs would be nicer if it went no propriatary
> multi- platform and cheap hmm... wasn't that the idea behind windows?)
> Anyway Turbo & Bp is not just about dos its about techniques and ways of
> doing things that are applicable to any language and I also don't see
why
> swag can't now be extended to Delphi, C++ and anyone else who wants to
> play :)
Because they already have their own websites, forums etc.
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