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Re: reinventing ASCII?

by James Harris <james.harris.1@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 5, 2008 at 03:05 PM

On 3 Mar, 13:56, wildhalcyon <wild.halc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Hypothetically, if you could reinvent ASCII in a modern context, what
> would you remove or add to the specification?
>
> Unicode looks like its set to take ASCII's place somewhere down the
> line, so this is mostly a thought problem, but I'm curious about what
> changes others might implement. I think the first logical change would
> be implementing it as 8-bit, rather than 7-bit, to take advantage of a
> full byte. After that, maybe remove most of the non-printable
> characters. I don't know any modern programs that take advantage of
> most of them. What to fill the additional spaces with though, I don't
> know.

In the context of this newsgroup - i.e. language design - my belief is
that a language would benefit from independence from the character
representation. In other words I'd say ASCII is not pragmatically
better or worse than any other representation EXCEPT I would say that
the non-printable characters are a pain.

Which non-printable characters are still needed? How about

   0  NUL
   4  EOT (end of transmission)
   9  TAB (or field separator)
   10 LF (or end of line)

Any more? Of course, only one or two control chars are really needed,
perhaps one to say that the next byte is to be interpreted as a non-
printable (perhaps a control code) and one to introduce a composite
character.

In short, to reply to your post, the thing I'd like change most in
ASCII is to get rid of most of the non-printables. Pity we can't get
rid of the lot of 'em!

--
James
 




 61 Posts in Topic:
reinventing ASCII?
wildhalcyon <wild.halc  2008-03-03 05:56:01 
Re: reinventing ASCII?
"cr88192" <c  2008-03-04 05:35:03 
Re: reinventing ASCII?
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-03-03 15:13:13 
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Jacko <jackokring@[EMA  2008-03-03 12:58:14 
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torbenm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-04 10:19:06 
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Eliot Miranda <eliotm@  2008-03-04 13:18:31 
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"Charlie Gordon"  2008-03-05 03:58:24 
Re: reinventing ASCII?
ram@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (S  2008-03-05 03:26:51 
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torbenm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-05 10:31:40 
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Edward Feustel <efeust  2008-03-05 06:32:23 
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James Harris <james.ha  2008-03-05 15:05:37 
Re: reinventing ASCII?
torbenm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-06 11:34:33 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
James Harris <james.ha  2008-03-08 07:16:34 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Eric Sosman <esosman@[  2008-03-08 10:48:58 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-03-08 19:29:00 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Ulrich Eckhardt <dooms  2008-03-09 09:18:15 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
torbenm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-11 11:04:42 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
santosh <santosh.k83@[  2008-03-11 16:26:16 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
richard@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-11 11:10:37 
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torbenm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-12 09:43:18 
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santosh <santosh.k83@[  2008-03-12 14:25:04 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
"Wilhelm B. Kloke&qu  2008-03-12 09:18:23 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Marco van de Voort <ma  2008-03-12 11:08:21 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
"Wilhelm B. Kloke&qu  2008-03-12 12:33:14 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Marco van de Voort <ma  2008-03-12 14:11:25 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Chris Dollin <chris.do  2008-03-12 13:33:42 
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"Wilhelm B. Kloke&qu  2008-03-12 15:34:40 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
"Default User"   2008-03-12 18:22:45 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
"Default User"   2008-03-12 18:22:45 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
"Default User"   2008-03-11 21:26:05 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Micah Cowan <micah@[EM  2008-03-11 15:14:10 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
richard@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-11 22:27:14 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Morris Dovey <mrdovey@  2008-03-08 09:45:05 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Ben Bacarisse <ben.use  2008-03-08 17:22:36 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
billg999@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-08 18:27:46 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
James Harris <james.ha  2008-03-09 17:16:03 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
richard@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-10 01:08:23 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Ben Bacarisse <ben.use  2008-03-10 12:13:19 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
James Harris <james.ha  2008-03-10 08:45:25 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-03-10 19:26:16 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Eric Sosman <esosman@[  2008-03-10 21:03:06 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Marco van de Voort <ma  2008-03-11 11:06:14 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-03-11 15:22:58 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Eric Sosman <Eric.Sosm  2008-03-13 17:37:20 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
rlb@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R  2008-03-14 09:32:54 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Eric Sosman <esosman@[  2008-03-14 09:21:41 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-03-14 17:48:27 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Morris Dovey <mrdovey@  2008-03-10 10:35:21 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-03-10 19:09:27 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Eric Sosman <esosman@[  2008-03-10 21:00:14 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Marco van de Voort <ma  2008-03-11 11:04:46 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
billg999@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-11 12:04:26 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
billg999@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-11 12:07:36 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Neilist <lattoralee@[E  2008-03-11 14:28:23 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
richard@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-11 22:22:36 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Richard <devr_@[EMAIL   2008-03-11 23:23:21 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Jacko <jackokring@[EMA  2008-03-12 11:49:33 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
Micah Cowan <micah@[EM  2008-03-12 19:01:00 
Re: NUL to terminate strings
CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-03-10 17:35:16 
Re: NUL to terminate strings
rlb@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R  2008-03-14 09:28:38 
Re: NUL to terminate strings; was reinventing ASCII?
BruceMcF <agila61@[EMA  2008-04-12 18:27:54 

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