Re: SBCL is now faster than Java, as fast as Ocaml, and getting better

On 2008-07-22 04:41:35 -0400, Vend <vend82@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:

> It's not. The time and effort you need to learn to use something
> productively matters a lot.

If some functionality is essential be being productive then it is a 
fixed cost amortized over many years of use. The time spent learning to 
comfortably use some editor that does paren matching and proper 
indentation of lisp code is an absolute requirement for programming 
effectively in lisp. You must make this investment of time. Just pick 
the lisp aware editor you want to learn and learn it.

There is no magic escape from the need to learn *some* lisp-aware 
editor in order to code effectively in lisp. You have now heard from a 
half dozen people with decades of experience coding lisp that notepad 
just won't cut it. Persisting in using notepad (or some other editor 
that is not lisp aware) at this point is just stubborn wishful thinking 
because you will never get notepad to edit lisp code nearly as quickly 
and easily as can be done with emacs, or vi(m), or ACL's IDE, or LWW's 
IDE, etc.

If you post again claiming that you are "stuck" with a non lisp-aware 
editor you will only be proving Kenny's guess that yours is what he 
calls an "imaginary whine" because if you are at all serious about 
writing more than 10 lines of lisp code you will take the advice of 
those with several ***ulative lifetimes of experience and use *some* 
lisp aware editor.

IOW, you will never match Wynton Marsalis's musical expressiveniss no 
matter how well you play the kazoo. Saying you are "stuck" with notepad 
is like saying you want to play jazz with Wynton Marsalis but are 
"stuck" with the kazoo.