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Re: Are we close to a Lisp boom ?

by Dihydrogen Monoxide <rares.marian@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 28, 2008 at 05:18 AM

On Sat, 03 May 2008 07:34:44 -0700, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:

> If it's true that as we progress in time, successive fa****onable
> languages resemble Lisp more and more then Lisp's turn should come at
> some point.
> 
> Do you agree with this argument ? If yes, would you say we're close to a
> Lisp boom ?

We need to change Lisp's architecture. No more included environment. If 
my office suite, my window manager, my X server, my network monitor 
applet, my browser, my newsreader, and my terminal all have 50 megs of 
lisp attached, that's a problem, especially when I update packages.

We should have something akin to a lisp corba daemon or something of the 
sort with live updates by logging into the daemon itself. Maybe every 
application could do that. That will make things saner.

When lisp can replace say the dhcp client to make my internet go then it 
will be relevant to joe user and mr uptight admin.

We need to do more than just fill in the blanks and expect everyone else 
to have an epiphany. Let's publish a lisp shell that replaces bash at 
least.





-- 
http://dihymo.blogspot.com
 




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Are we close to a Lisp boom ?
Spiros Bousbouras <spi  2008-05-03 07:34:44 
Re: Are we close to a Lisp boom ?
"Peter Hildebrandt&q  2008-05-03 18:21:34 
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Rainer Joswig <joswig@  2008-05-03 19:40:24 
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Ken Tilton <kennytilto  2008-05-03 14:30:36 
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Edi Weitz <spamtrap@[E  2008-05-08 13:24:24 
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Ken Tilton <kennytilto  2008-05-08 14:02:14 
Re: Are we close to a Lisp boom ?
Rainer Joswig <joswig@  2008-05-03 19:33:31 
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Zach Beane <xach@[EMAI  2008-05-03 17:45:20 
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vanekl <vanek@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 03:01:42 
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Ken Tilton <kennytilto  2008-05-03 23:57:05 
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vanekl <vanek@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 04:24:23 
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Robert Uhl <eadmund42@  2008-05-06 09:39:09 
Re: Are we close to a Lisp boom ?
scholz.lothar@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-03 20:08:43 
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"John Thingstad"  2008-05-04 19:09:58 
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"David Formosa (aka   2008-05-05 21:11:25 
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Ken Tilton <kennytilto  2008-05-05 21:25:52 
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pjb@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-05-06 09:17:44 
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Edi Weitz <spamtrap@[E  2008-05-05 17:15:34 
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Edi Weitz <spamtrap@[E  2008-05-05 17:16:12 
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Robert Uhl <eadmund42@  2008-05-06 09:43:16 
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pjb@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-05-06 18:53:32 
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Rainer Joswig <joswig@  2008-05-06 20:31:40 
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Edi Weitz <spamtrap@[E  2008-05-06 11:51:53 
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George Neuner <gneuner  2008-05-06 12:20:29 
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Robert Uhl <eadmund42@  2008-05-06 17:03:42 
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Edi Weitz <spamtrap@[E  2008-05-06 13:55:13 
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George Neuner <gneuner  2008-05-06 22:47:20 
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"Peter Hildebrandt&q  2008-05-07 09:11:22 
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Edi Weitz <spamtrap@[E  2008-05-07 07:17:44 
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pjb@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-05-07 13:47:49 
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Edi Weitz <spamtrap@[E  2008-05-07 07:18:55 
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pjb@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-05-07 13:51:10 
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globalrev <skanemupp@[  2008-05-04 04:34:26 
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Ken Tilton <kennytilto  2008-05-04 09:43:55 
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vanekl <vanek@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 15:04:02 
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Ken Tilton <kennytilto  2008-05-04 13:16:11 
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Majorinc Kazimir <fals  2008-05-04 15:44:43 
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Jon Harrop <jon@[EMAIL  2008-05-30 10:40:13 
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philip.armitage@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-04 08:45:53 
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Joost Diepenmaat <joos  2008-05-04 20:38:58 
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Majorinc Kazimir <fals  2008-05-04 21:19:18 
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Joost Diepenmaat <joos  2008-05-04 21:30:35 
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"John Thingstad"  2008-05-05 00:54:17 
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Johan Ur Riise <johan@  2008-05-06 21:00:01 
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Espen Vestre <espen@[E  2008-05-06 22:00:07 
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rpw3@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-05-09 19:42:51 
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Espen Vestre <espen@[E  2008-05-14 11:56:52 
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Majorinc Kazimir <fals  2008-05-04 21:01:41 
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"MarkHaniford@[EMAIL  2008-05-04 10:21:47 
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Ken Tilton <kennytilto  2008-05-04 14:59:08 
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pls.mrjm@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-04 12:25:07 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pertti_Kel  2008-05-05 10:18:11 
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"John Thingstad"  2008-05-05 10:59:06 
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Robert Uhl <eadmund42@  2008-05-06 09:47:40 
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globalrev <skanemupp@[  2008-05-05 07:12:28 
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"mabramson@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-05 10:27:00 
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Zach Beane <xach@[EMAI  2008-05-05 13:29:40 
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pls.mrjm@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-05 13:38:10 
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EL <eckhardnospam@[EMA  2008-05-06 00:05:54 
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Duane Rettig <duane@[E  2008-05-06 01:08:11 
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pjb@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-05-06 10:41:04 
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EL <eckhardnospam@[EMA  2008-05-06 13:28:39 
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Duane Rettig <duane@[E  2008-05-06 08:43:42 
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plamen.usenet@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-06 09:13:21 
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"Peter Hildebrandt&q  2008-05-06 19:14:32 
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Slobodan Blazeski <slo  2008-05-06 09:36:23 
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Duane Rettig <duane@[E  2008-05-06 12:43:03 
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Slobodan Blazeski <slo  2008-05-07 00:17:43 
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tibor.simic@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-07 04:28:54 
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Spiros Bousbouras <spi  2008-05-07 09:35:01 
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Will Schenk <wschenk@[  2008-05-07 10:55:56 
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Rainer Joswig <joswig@  2008-05-07 20:43:33 
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Robert Brown <bbrown@[  2008-05-07 19:09:51 
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Steve Cooper <mindfire  2008-05-08 09:53:00 
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"John Thingstad"  2008-05-08 19:01:41 
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Ken Tilton <kennytilto  2008-05-08 13:15:00 
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Slobodan Blazeski <slo  2008-05-09 01:03:03 
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Peter Christensen <pet  2008-05-16 10:13:31 
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Ken Tilton <kennytilto  2008-05-16 13:59:42 
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Peter Hildebrandt <pet  2008-05-16 23:32:47 
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Dihydrogen Monoxide <r  2008-05-28 05:18:20 
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Robert Uhl <eadmund42@  2008-05-30 12:19:58 
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Dihydrogen Monoxide <r  2008-05-28 06:03:02 
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Paul Donnelly <paul-do  2008-05-28 01:54:08 
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Dihydrogen Monoxide <r  2008-05-28 12:59:43 
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pjb@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-05-29 17:57:58 
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Dihydrogen Monoxide <r  2008-05-30 02:25:56 
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nathan.baum@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-30 01:47:14 
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nathan.baum@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-30 02:14:12 
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Andrew Reilly <andrew-  2008-05-30 09:39:17 
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Jon Harrop <jon@[EMAIL  2008-05-30 11:13:31 
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"John Thingstad"  2008-05-30 22:35:14 
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Sohail Somani <sohail@  2008-05-30 20:53:09 
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pjb@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-06-02 16:38:15 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pertti_Kel  2008-06-02 12:25:26 
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Jon Harrop <jon@[EMAIL  2008-06-02 11:23:13 
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Robert Uhl <eadmund42@  2008-06-02 08:56:32 
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stamant@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-02 11:58:40 
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George Neuner <gneuner  2008-06-02 17:14:30 
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stamant@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-02 17:49:16 
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Ken Tilton <kennytilto  2008-06-02 21:24:13 
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Nicolas Neuss <lastnam  2008-06-03 09:25:52 
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rpw3@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-06-03 06:20:56 
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Nicolas Neuss <lastnam  2008-06-03 19:40:23 
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Ken Tilton <kennytilto  2008-06-03 08:25:41 
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George Neuner <gneuner  2008-06-03 13:55:10 
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George Neuner <gneuner  2008-06-03 14:20:46 
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Ken Tilton <kennytilto  2008-06-03 14:25:39 
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George Neuner <gneuner  2008-06-03 16:50:39 
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George Neuner <gneuner  2008-06-05 20:58:36 
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Jon Harrop <jon@[EMAIL  2008-05-30 10:46:59 
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=?UTF-8?B?TGFycyBSdW5lIE7  2008-05-30 23:19:52 
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Ken Tilton <kennytilto  2008-05-30 17:51:59 
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Peter Christensen <pet  2008-05-30 12:16:34 
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Paul Donnelly <paul-do  2008-05-30 18:28:00 
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=?UTF-8?Q?Stanis=C5=82aw?  2008-05-31 04:59:36 
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Dihydrogen Monoxide <r  2008-05-30 23:52:36 
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Jon Harrop <jon@[EMAIL  2008-05-31 10:30:05 
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Pascal Costanza <pc@[E  2008-05-31 11:38:58 
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Jon Harrop <jon@[EMAIL  2008-06-01 08:20:00 
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pjb@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-06-02 16:47:44 
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Dihydrogen Monoxide <r  2008-05-30 23:52:36 
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Paul Donnelly <paul-do  2008-05-31 14:41:34 
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=?UTF-8?Q?Stanis=C5=82aw?  2008-06-01 13:18:29 
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Paul Donnelly <paul-do  2008-06-01 04:33:33 
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Jon Harrop <jon@[EMAIL  2008-06-01 11:01:41 
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Pascal Costanza <pc@[E  2008-06-01 13:36:39 
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Paul Donnelly <paul-do  2008-06-01 14:00:01 
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pls.mrjm@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-02 03:46:17 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pertti_Kel  2008-06-02 14:29:16 
Re: Are we close to a Lisp boom ?
"John Thingstad"  2008-06-02 14:17:17 
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pjb@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-06-02 16:52:09 
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pls.mrjm@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-02 07:22:52 
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"Thomas F. Burdick&q  2008-06-02 07:57:05 
Re: Are we close to a Lisp boom ?
Pascal Costanza <pc@[E  2008-06-02 17:09:04 
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pls.mrjm@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-02 08:27:15 
Re: Are we close to a Lisp boom ?
Rainer Joswig <joswig@  2008-06-02 17:57:04 
Re: Are we close to a Lisp boom ?
"John Thingstad"  2008-06-02 19:19:13 
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pls.mrjm@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-02 13:38:26 
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pls.mrjm@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-02 13:39:56 
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Paul Donnelly <paul-do  2008-06-02 16:34:15 
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pjb@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-06-04 09:29:18 
Re: Are we close to a Lisp boom ?
"Thomas F. Burdick&q  2008-06-02 15:30:46 
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Paul Donnelly <paul-do  2008-06-04 14:20:50 
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Giorgos Keramidas <ker  2008-06-08 05:13:40 
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Giorgos Keramidas <ker  2008-06-08 05:16:10 

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