Re: Any discuss group about Hibernate, Spring?

RC wrote:
> Our office soon is going to replace
> JDBC with Hibernate.

No you will replace direct JDBC usage with Hibernate. Hibernate
uses JDBC.

> BTW, what is the relation****p between Spring and Hibernate?

None.

Spring is a IOC/DI framework.

Hibernate is an ORM.

> Do we need both of them to replace JDBC?

They don't.

It is one of:

your code----JDBC driver----database
your code----Hibernate----JDBC driver----database
your code----Spring----JDBC driver----database
your code----Spring----Hibernate----JDBC driver----database

> I program with JDBC for many years, feel comfortable with it.
> JDBC requires you well know about SQL. Hibernate doesn't require
> a programmer know about SQL. Is this a great advantage?

It is an advantage that Hibernate works at a higher abstraction
level and saves some trivial code.

I will assume that your Java programmers did not have any
problems with the simple SQL needed for CRUD.

Besides you get HQL with Hibernate.

:-)

Arne