On Feb 12, 7:42 am, ap...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> On 11 Feb, 16:06, Mark Woyna <wo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > > Indeed. I never argued that the choices were sane. Allowing the sw
to
> > > > become so out of date wih the maintenance issues it has IMO is,
ahem,
> > > > sub-optimal. But I have to make it work until they can migrate
away
> > > It's all off now. If java is ever reintroduced it will be with JMS
> > > instead of CORBA.
> > > There were a few incidents of Orbix connectivity problems after this
> > > move. The two events were connected. The conclusion was to remove
the
> > > java work.
> > > > Also, I think that CORBA is a good technology for the problem at
hand,
> > > > it's the ancient version that is the problem. I did recommend that
> > > > they stay with CORBA but was overruled.
> > Thanks for the update. I share your pain. You certainly can't be
> > faulted for not trying.
>
> > Since this is a CORBA newsgroup, I'll add this. I've been using Java/
> > CORBA successfully for over 10 years. We run the worlds largest
> > options exchange on a CORBA platform, written in Java. We process over
> > 2 billion quotes a day.
>
> Well, I believe in CORBA and IMO there is nothing wrong in using CORBA
> wirh java.
>
> > I have to imagine that many within your company will point to this
> > fiasco as a failure of CORBA.
>
> Looks that way.
>
> > I would say it's simply a failure of
> > management, not technology.
>
> Yes.
>
> > The decision to stick with a old,
> > unsup****ted, buggy product when there are viable alternatives is a
> > 100% management decision.
>
> I did what I could, and so did IONA.
>
> > It'll be interesting to see what they do in
> > the future when they have to integrate with a non-Java application.
>
> This place is 100% java so I don't think that will ever happen. If it
> does then I may get another contract!
Famous last words. No organization of any significant size stays
single language for long, if they ever manage to achieve it at all. If
they're successful, they're often buyout targets, and get gobbled up
by larger companies with their own systems and platforms. In your case
the company is moving away from C++ to Java. How long will it be until
a new management team comes along and decides on a new language? Java
is a fine language, but it won't be the last language we ever learn.
Lastly, what happens when they discover some new third-party
application that they just have to have, and it happens to be written
in C#?
Mark
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>
> > Mark
>
> FWIW, the Orbix connectivity problems we were only seeing in
> production now seem to happen in our pre-UAT environment. So it looks
> like the sickness is spreading.


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