On 29 Aug, 16:31, Mark Woyna <wo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > Given that it's an ancient product, and that there are far
> > > better orbs out there, e.g. JacORB, I don't understand why you
insist
> > > on sticking with OrbixWeb.
>
> > Believe it or not, I recommended that we do. This is because I have
> > misgivings about moving to JacORB. This is despite me being an open
> > source advocate. Indeed when I started the java work I used JacORB to
> > begin with. Here are some of the reasons I gave against JacORB:
[reasons snipped]
> > > There's no technical reason you can't move
> > > to JacORB, a superior *free* orb with a fairly active developer
> > > community.
>
> > Actually there are at least two reasons: first it won't build with
> > java6 (and it must be built from the source); second, I have a problem
> > with the use of ****table interceptors and I have had insufficient
> > response from the jacorb mailing list (and I tried USENET also). My
> > experiences of IONA sup****t in the past have been bad but at the
> > moment I am getting very good sup****t - one IONA consultant in
> > particular is being extremely helpful and we do not even have a
> > sup****t agreement!
>
> You mean there's life at Iona? ;-)
There certainly is, and there seems to be more life there than at
PrismTech. I have been talking to one guy at PT who was very helpful
regarding prices for sup****t, but this did not allay my concerns about
the aging bug list, the lack of community response and the PT code
fork. In fact it made me wonder what community there really is for
jacORB other than PT customers.
> > > I think you'll find that practically *nobody* uses OrbixWeb. 'Notice
> > > how few responses you're getting to your questions?
Well, you could be right there. The response has been disappointing.
> > Well, it is old technology for IONA, I know. Other ORBS like jacorb,
> > TAO. etc are under active development. But this does not matter to me
> > too much because the CORBA will be phased out on this project anyway.
>
> Replaced with what? For all its warts, there's still no practical
> alternative to CORBA if you need multi-language, multi-platform
> interoperability, especially if you need performance.
Well, that was my recommendation. But I was overruled. The reason
given was that CORBA skills are expensive and hard to find.
> > I am just trying to replace the C++ with java right now. So I do not
> > need a sparkling product, just one that works reasonably well with
> > some sup****t in case we hit a showstopper.
>
> I imagine PT's version of JacORB would suffice.
I am not so sure. And if I am not so sure you can bet the mgmt are
even less sure since they look to me for advice in this area.
> > > Through Orbix 3.x, Iona's products were generally crap.
> Tao would be my recommendation for a C++ orb.
I cannot get them to switch to any ORB for the C++ work. Orbix will
remain. The question is which ORB will be used for java. And it is
beginning to look like it will be OrbixWeb 3.141597925.....
> > I am considering using Orbix 6 if OrbixWeb proves to be too buggy. The
> > alternative would be the PrismTech version of JacORB.
>
> Have you checked out VisiBroker? I believe it's still available,
> although it's buried on Borland's website.
The last time I looked at VisiBroker was ages ago. It didn't know it
was still an actively marketed product.
-Andrew Marlow
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