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Ravion,
Chief Architect,
Google
"Lion-O" <nosp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:slrnfl6dc5.5e3.nosp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Are you sure that Sun's Java (TM) will continue to exist?
>
> We've heard and read many doom stories like these before and so far all
of
> them
> turned out to be nonsense.
>
> Sure, you can fork Sun's JRE but cannot call it Java. And for good
reasons
> too.
> Should Sun allow stuff like that to happen they'd be really dooming the
> whole
> project. The proof of that can be seen with the impact of the
> implementation of
> that horrible piece of **** (personal opinion) called Gij and GCJ on
> Linux.
> People perceive it to be "java" but guess what? "java" doesn't even
manage
> to
> deal with simple examples from the java tutorial
> (http://www.thejavatutorial.com/).
So Java sucks and doesn't even work
as
> it
> should.
>
> Fortunately things are a little better setup than that, more and more
> people
> come to realize that Java is only Java if Sun says so. Your own post is
> part of
> the proof of that.
>
> As long as that realization is there Java will continue to go strong.
> Sure, Sun
> can be a pain in the ass sometimes when it comes to this. But thats
> exactly
> what a complex project like Java needs. Most open source projects which
> eventually fell into chaos and either ended, exploded or split into a
lot
> of
> sub projects reached that stage because there wasn't a leader present
who
> called the shots. No one to say "This we do, that we don't". Resulting
in
> an
> eventual upstirr and a split in the whole project.
>
> Don't forget; most developers want to develop and don't care about all
> that
> open source zealotery nonsense. Things need to work, and we need to be
> able to
> do our jobs. If you allow yourself to fall down to the open source
zealot
> road
> you'll end up with bull**** idiocy like "Oh no, we can't distribute
> Firefox as
> such because of some licenses we don't like. So we'll just re-compile it
> and
> call it "Iceweasel" (as is happening with the Debian distribution)".
>
>
> concluding.. As long as Sun keeps protecting their interests as they do
> you can
> be sure your software will run when you're dealing with "Java" because
> "Java"
> can only be applied as name when it really meets all the demands.
>
> And that is exactly what is needed to keep it going strong; confidence
and
> trust that "Java" can handle Java code.
>
>
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