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Re: Java Evolution

by Lion-O <nosp@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 2, 2007 at 04:45 PM

> Are you sure that Sun's Java (TM) will continue to exist?

We've heard and read many doom stories like these before and so far all of
them
turned out to be nonsense.

Sure, you can fork Sun's JRE but cannot call it Java. And for good reasons
too.
Should Sun allow stuff like that to happen they'd be really dooming the
whole
project. The proof of that can be seen with the impact of the
implementation of
that horrible piece of **** (personal opinion) called Gij and GCJ on
Linux.
People perceive it to be "java" but guess what? "java" doesn't even manage
to
deal with simple examples from the java tutorial
(http://www.thejavatutorial.com/).
So Java sucks and doesn't even work as
it
should.

Fortunately things are a little better setup than that, more and more
people
come to realize that Java is only Java if Sun says so. Your own post is
part of
the proof of that.

As long as that realization is there Java will continue to go strong.
Sure, Sun
can be a pain in the ass sometimes when it comes to this. But thats
exactly
what a complex project like Java needs. Most open source projects which
eventually fell into chaos and either ended, exploded or split into a lot
of
sub projects reached that stage because there wasn't a leader present who
called the shots. No one to say "This we do, that we don't". Resulting in
an
eventual upstirr and a split in the whole project.

Don't forget; most developers want to develop and don't care about all
that
open source zealotery nonsense. Things need to work, and we need to be
able to
do our jobs. If you allow yourself to fall down to the open source zealot
road
you'll end up with bull**** idiocy like "Oh no, we can't distribute
Firefox as
such because of some licenses we don't like. So we'll just re-compile it
and
call it "Iceweasel" (as is happening with the Debian distribution)".


concluding.. As long as Sun keeps protecting their interests as they do
you can
be sure your software will run when you're dealing with "Java" because
"Java"
can only be applied as name when it really meets all the demands.

And that is exactly what is needed to keep it going strong; confidence and
trust that "Java" can handle Java code.


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Java Evolution
Roedy Green <see_websi  2007-11-24 08:52:50 
Re: Java Evolution
Roedy Green <see_websi  2007-11-24 09:45:00 
Re: Java Evolution
"Jeroen Wenting"  2007-11-27 13:04:23 
Re: Java Evolution
Roedy Green <see_websi  2007-11-24 09:45:00 
Re: Java Evolution
"Jeroen Wenting"  2007-11-27 13:04:23 
Re: Java Evolution
"Arthuro Toscano&quo  2007-11-26 08:36:28 
Re: Java Evolution
Lion-O <nosp@[EMAIL PR  2007-12-02 16:45:02 
Re: Java Evolution
"Ravion" <ra  2007-12-07 23:03:01 
Re: Java Evolution
Lion-O <nosp@[EMAIL PR  2007-12-07 16:43:49 
Re: Java Evolution
Roedy Green <see_websi  2007-12-12 17:00:30 
Re: Java Evolution
The Ghost In The Machine   2007-12-12 11:56:34 
Java Evolution
Roedy Green <see_websi  2007-11-24 08:52:50 
Re: Java Evolution
Roedy Green <see_websi  2007-11-24 09:45:00 
Re: Java Evolution
"Jeroen Wenting"  2007-11-27 13:04:23 
Re: Java Evolution
Roedy Green <see_websi  2007-11-24 09:45:00 
Re: Java Evolution
"Jeroen Wenting"  2007-11-27 13:04:23 
Re: Java Evolution
"Arthuro Toscano&quo  2007-11-26 08:36:28 
Re: Java Evolution
Lion-O <nosp@[EMAIL PR  2007-12-02 16:45:02 
Re: Java Evolution
"Ravion" <ra  2007-12-07 23:03:01 
Re: Java Evolution
Lion-O <nosp@[EMAIL PR  2007-12-07 16:43:49 
Re: Java Evolution
Roedy Green <see_websi  2007-12-12 17:00:30 
Re: Java Evolution
The Ghost In The Machine   2007-12-12 11:56:34 

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