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Re: Red Hat, Sun finally buddy up on Java

by Owen Jacobson <angrybaldguy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 5, 2007 at 10:59 PM

"Finally"?  Redhat was the only distro with a functional java package
(rather than the binary installer) for a long time.  Sun and Redhat
have been playing nicey-nice with each other for ages, relative to the
linux community at large. :)

On Nov 5, 7:41 pm, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 11:11 pm, Mark Space <marksp...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> > > One can't help but wonder whether the next step is the integration
of
> > > NetBeans into Eclipse...
>
> > I doubt it.  This move is centered on the server space.  More likely
> > you'd see a merger of JBoss and Glassfish, or at least a feature swap.
> > (But even a merger of those, I don't see as very likely.)  I don't see
> > anything that points at one side giving up their desktop IDE.
>
> Mark & Lew:
>
> Perhaps a solution to keep everyone happy would be for the NetBeans
> team to follow on Borland/CodeGear's footsteps? NetGear would be able
> to contribute and impart their own kind on magic to an Eclipse base.
>
> Competition is extremely im****tant, and I would be very worried to see
> Eclipse swallowing everybody else, the way they did with JBuilder.
>
> The one item in my wish list is that all Java IDE providers:
>
>  - Had a common directory and file structure for projects
>  - Allowed me to easily keep all the *.java files in a separate
> directory, accessible by all the IDEs that I use.

*dons asbestos undergarments*

People who voluntarily store critical parts of their source (like GUI
layouts) in such a way that only one tool can possibly build it are
creating their own problem, regardless of language.

*removes asbestos undergarments*

For myself, I've solved both of these issues with Apache Maven, which
is capable of generating projects for several IDEs from a common
codebase and project file.  The process for getting a working eclipse
environment for the projects I'm working on right now is:
 1. check out.
 2. mvn eclipse:eclipse
 3. Eclipse/Im****t/Existing Projects

I found plugins for IDEA and Netbeans project generation, too.

Rather than impose a specific standard source layout on every single
tool[0], we should probably demand simpler, better-do***ented formats
for project metadata and clearer conceptual mappings between tool-
specific concepts (like Netbeans' "modules") and standard concepts
(like "JAR").

[0] I expect to be burned at the stake by other maven users for
uttering that sentence.  :)
 




 9 Posts in Topic:
Red Hat, Sun finally buddy up on Java
Ramon F Herrera <ramon  2007-11-05 18:07:37 
Re: Red Hat, Sun finally buddy up on Java
Lew <lew@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-11-05 22:04:43 
Re: Red Hat, Sun finally buddy up on Java
=?UTF-8?B?QXJuZSBWYWpow7h  2007-11-06 21:32:57 
Re: Red Hat, Sun finally buddy up on Java
Mark Space <markspace@  2007-11-05 19:11:54 
Re: Red Hat, Sun finally buddy up on Java
Ramon F Herrera <ramon  2007-11-05 19:41:41 
Re: Red Hat, Sun finally buddy up on Java
Lew <lew@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-11-06 01:26:18 
Re: Red Hat, Sun finally buddy up on Java
Owen Jacobson <angryba  2007-11-05 22:59:26 
Re: Red Hat, Sun finally buddy up on Java
Hunter Gratzner <a2490  2007-11-06 07:12:45 
Re: Red Hat, Sun finally buddy up on Java
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=  2007-11-06 21:31:16 

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