Re: Opera Mini 4 versus iphone Safari

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 asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

> > ZnU wrote:
> >
> > This is true. However, with the exception of games (and I bet Apple 
> > is going to let a few select developers write games for the iPhone, 
> > the same way they do for the iPod), most of the apps you'd want to 
> > run on an iPhone (that aren't built-in) are things that require 
> > network access anyway.
> >
> 
> lol.....yeah, there are literally thousands of free and commercial 
> games that apple users have no access to....talk about a WALLED 
> garden..i thought u guys liked freedom?

Personally, I don't really care about games.

> and do you know what i run on my cell? i can ftp to our servers and 
> edit files, log in remotely to desktop and servers and view the 
> screen, have acces to twitter mobile apps, tv apps. ebay automated 
> apps, google apps, etc, almost all free to download.

That's nice. You represent probably 1% of cell phone users.

> meanwhile, the poor saps with iphone are basically walled in and 
> can't even store app info in their iphone forsafekeeping and privacy.
> 
> > They're used a bit. Web games have mostly gone to Flash and most 
> > other things have gone to AJAX.
> 
> Nope, my wife regularly plays web games and it's about 50-50 
> applets:flash

Her usage is evidently not typical.

> as to ajx, i suggest taking a look at some enterprise clients cause 
> they are mostly either applets or dotnet C# ...ajax is a hype started 
> by google (which is java on the backend mostly so they're ok with me) 
> that has yet to actually make any real impact on enterprise clients. 
> it'sx not powerful or robust enough. as i said just compare google 
> maps to something /ike google earth. or googles stupid web office 
> apps to real ones like sun's open office or microsoft office.

The enterprise is usually the last place to look, if you're interested 
in where the industry is headed. It tends to trail well behind the state 
of the art, because cor****ate IT managers take a few years to get used 
to anything.

And I'll note that neither Google Earth or Microsoft Office is a Java 
application either. Like I said, client-side Java has mostly flopped. 
Certainly it has if it's judged by the grand things that were predicted 
for it in the '90s.

> * darn mosquitoes are flying about as i lounge by the pool and eat a 
> salad.

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