Re: Opera Mini 4 versus iphone Safari

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 asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> ZnU wrote:
> > In article >
> > I haven't seen browsers getting "clogged" except by fairly
pathological
> > code in years. And I'm in the web app business.
> >
> 
> so am i. notice that our main topic here is the phone browser so
> having lots of processing on the phone using ajax type webapps is
> slower than not having to rely on those webapps.

It's not all that much processing. As I said before, most of the 
client-side processing of an AJAX app consists of hiding and showing 
elements that are a few lines of HTML, or copying short strings around 
from field to field.

This is just not all that challenging for a modern computing device. 
Even one that fits in your pocket.

> > Java apps tend to be significantly heavier, in terms of memory
> > footprint, loading time, etc. than AJAX apps. There's a reason
> > client-side Java embedded in the browser has virtually disappeared, to
> > be replaced by lightweight JavaScript and back-end server processing.
> 
> Java applets, like flash, are obviously heavier than javascript. But
> i'm talking about resident client apps, which the iphone will not have
> and which has many developers disappointed.  The point is that instead
> of having the browser run all thses webapps with storage on the server
> (which again contributes to lots of back and forth data as well as
> privacy issues) having resident apps takes the load off from the
> browser and means you can run them away from the network as well.

This is true. However, with the exception of games (and I bet Apple is 
going to let a few select developers write games for the iPhone, the 
same way they do for the iPod), most of the apps you'd want to run on an 
iPhone (that aren't built-in) are things that require network access 
anyway.

> Btw. you might want to tell all those companies who use applets that
> they're dead, including yahoo and other big companies. applets aren't
> much used as banner ads, a space now taken by flash. but they are
> heavily used in web games, web cam apps. chat rooms, and many
> enterprise web clients like webex.

They're used a bit. Web games have mostly gone to Flash and most other 
things have gone to AJAX.

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