Re: Opera Mini 4 versus iphone Safari

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 asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> ZnU wrote:
> > In article <1182817815.814166.80810@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >  asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Jun 25, 4:39 pm, Mishagam <noem...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > none wrote:
> > > > > asjbio...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > >> 2. will be slow as mol***** because of all the scripts 
> > > > >> running on the browser.
> > > >
> > > > > What? Scripts are slow on OSX? Surely you jest.
> > > >
> > > > May be (Shell) scripts on OSX (Unix) run faster than bat files 
> > > > on Windows, but this doesn't mean that (javascript) scripts on 
> > > > Safari browser run faster that on IE or Firefox or that they 
> > > > will be fast on iPhone. Generally javascript is fully 
> > > > interpreted language and rather slow.
> > >
> > > yep, I must have missed this comment...javascript running 
> > > continuously on a browser, even a desktop one, has the potential 
> > > to slow down the application obviously. It's sorta common sense 
> > > that continuous processing of scripts on the browser will slow it 
> > > down.
> >
> > This issue is being seriously overplayed. You generally have to use 
> > JavaScript for fairly nutty things (like manipulating *large* 
> > amounts of text) before you start causing performance problems. 
> > Most AJAX apps just use client-side JS for showing, hiding, or 
> > creating elements that consist of a few lines of HTML, and copying 
> > short strings into or out of fields.
> 
> except jobs in all his glorious stupidity will not allow 3rd party 
> mobile apps, so you'll get some fairly substantial webapps .clogging 
> up the browser.

I really doubt it. Google has a spreadsheet app and a collaborative 
word processor implemented in JavaScript, and they don't "clog up the 
browser".

I haven't seen browsers getting "clogged" except by fairly pathological 
code in years. And I'm in the web app business.

> My cell currently has java apps for remotely connecting to servers 
> and desktops, FTP, widget ****tals, twitter clients,google maps. 
> google mail. etc. These are all resident apps that can do substantial 
> client side processing, including saving persistent state to memory. 
> The crippled iphone can't do 3rd party apps without resorting to 
> clumsier webapps.

Java apps tend to be significantly heavier, in terms of memory 
footprint, loading time, etc. than AJAX apps. There's a reason 
client-side Java embedded in the browser has virtually disappeared, to 
be replaced by lightweight JavaScript and back-end server processing.

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