Re: Opera Mini 4 versus iphone Safari

asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

> > Yes, a desktop browser is probably used for more extensive browsing.
But
> > if you're counting unique visitors rather than raw page hits, a single
> > hit from a mobile browser to fetch some s****ts scores counts as much
as
> > a desktop user spending half an hour reading a bunch of articles on
the
> > same site.
> 
> good. you are getting it. except browsing time does make a difference
> because these aggregate stats don't count unique users and in general
> mobile users do not go to that many website thus making it likely that
> the few websites thay visit may not be counted in the stat sample. The
> only valid compaisons would be desktop to desktop and mobile to
> mobile.

it's still the "share" of the web hits, so they are either not using it 
as much since it's Opera mini is painful to use, or they aren't because 
of their data plan. With the iPhone, it's unlimited data and 450 minutes 
for $59, or entirely free when you are on the very common 802.11 network.

> let me repat my question and maybe i'll get more than anecdotal
> stories from one neighborhood and one guy. do you have any re****ts or
> data that show free wifi access points in manhattan as a whole at
> 60%?

that sounds about right in a compact city such as nyc. as Znu re****ted, 
not on every street corner, but 60% is a fair honest number.

> and btw, stealing wifi access from your neighbor's apt does not
> constitute a valid free access point.
> 
> * eating a taco in my car while writing on my opera mini java browser.

what? the whole idea of 802.11 was FREE open networks, that's been 
Apple's plan for it since they did all the work with Lucent in 2000.

Where you get your ignorance is perplexing. 802.11 will be the main 
phone and internet standard going forward. Look up WiMax if you want to 
learn about where all this is going.