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Re: Opera Mini 4 versus iphone Safari

by ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 26, 2007 at 11:48 AM

In article <1182787492.074824.94880@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

> none wrote:
> 
> > but analysts aren't good sources for accurate info, Apple usually
> > forecasts low and is building 12 million as we speak. The whole
gimmick
> > is 10 million by the end of 2008, but I assure you Steve will say at
> > MacWorld 2008, we have hit 10 million iPhones by Dec 31, 2007. "Wow,
> > what a success".
> >
> 
> so you're expecting this group to believe apple and the analysts are
> wrong by a factor of 10???? has this happened before? are u high? did
> ur mother drop a mac on top of you when u were little?
> 
> and btw. i'd rather go with a bunch of analysts than a guy on the
> internet who has not made a coherent argument the last 2 days :-)

Meh. While "none" might not know what he's talking about, listening to 
analysts on Apple is almost always a waste of time. Most of them don't 
really know how to properly analyze a company which doesn't announce its 
future plans more than a few months in advance and which bases a 
substantial part of its business model on creating new markets where its 
competitors don't think they exist.

A lot of them are also spec sheet bullet point counter types, which 
means they completely fail to understand the major advantages Apple's 
products have in areas like hardware/software integration and user 
experience. On top of that they often have a very shallow understanding 
of the dynamics of the markets they analyze, and fail to account for 
things like network effects, format lock-in, etc. that constitute major 
forces in the IT world.

> > So none of them are using it via 802.11? I'm not a fan of any "data
> > plan", networks should be open or free or I won't use them.
> 
> You actually mean to tell me you'll be surfing on your cell at home
> when u can do so using a PC? Then you're stupider than we thnought.

Is it really that implausible that someone might be sitting on their 
couch with their iPhone, watching TV and browsing the web when the 
commercials come on? Or, I can easily see myself pulling out an iPhone 
to check something on the web at a friend's house -- without having to 
ask if I can go into the other room and use the computer.

> The point of having internet access on mobiles is using it when larger
> devices aren't available.

WiFi is available in many places where people won't necessarily have 
laptops with them, or won't want to take one out.

>  probably to make a NJ baloney sandwich of course.
> 
> * Posted on my Opera Mini  while thinking of a nice lunch

-- 
"That's George Wa****ngton, the first president, of course. The interesting
thing
about him is that I read three--three or four books about him last year.
Isn't
that interesting?"
                     - George W. Bush to re****ter Kai Diekmann, May 5,
2006
 




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Opera Mini 4 versus iphone Safari
asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-24 02:18:13 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-23 20:41:56 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-24 02:54:22 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-23 21:18:25 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-25 17:02:41 
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ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-25 13:33:20 
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Mishagam <noemail@[EMA  2007-06-25 13:57:20 
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"MuahMan" <m  2007-06-25 14:05:36 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-25 13:44:38 
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Mishagam <noemail@[EMA  2007-06-25 16:31:55 
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ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-25 18:45:38 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-26 11:45:16 
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notinuse2@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-28 19:21:58 
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ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-28 16:15:25 
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notinuse2@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-28 22:57:41 
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ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-28 18:43:45 
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notinuse2@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-29 11:12:30 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-26 16:36:13 
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ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-26 15:08:46 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-28 22:48:50 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-28 17:55:53 
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notinuse2@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-29 22:55:40 
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"gimme_this_gimme_th  2007-06-23 20:00:45 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-24 04:44:46 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-23 23:12:21 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-25 19:13:08 
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ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-25 19:00:02 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-26 11:50:15 
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notinuse2@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-28 20:01:33 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-26 20:13:13 
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ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-26 18:33:18 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-24 05:32:02 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-24 00:07:47 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-26 00:43:25 
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ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-25 21:30:52 
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"MuahMan" <m  2007-06-26 11:51:37 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-26 20:21:53 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-26 23:36:20 
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ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-26 19:50:43 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-27 08:04:03 
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Jesus <rustybucket666@  2007-06-24 10:44:26 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-27 00:41:51 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-27 00:46:35 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-24 13:34:02 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-24 14:51:43 
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"MuahMan" <m  2007-06-24 17:23:04 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-24 14:25:22 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-24 17:33:53 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-24 19:29:36 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-27 03:17:44 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-24 14:45:58 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-24 17:31:21 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-25 01:17:36 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-25 01:19:19 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-24 21:08:00 
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Jesus <rustybucket666@  2007-06-24 20:03:13 
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Jesus <rustybucket666@  2007-06-24 20:19:20 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-24 23:43:50 
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Jesus <rustybucket666@  2007-06-24 20:23:05 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-24 21:26:04 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-24 23:24:36 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-24 21:30:06 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-25 06:00:34 
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ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-25 03:59:55 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-25 13:26:11 
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Mishagam <noemail@[EMA  2007-06-25 16:39:56 
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notinuse2@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-28 20:13:25 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-25 06:13:28 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-25 06:18:18 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-25 15:30:42 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-25 09:47:08 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-25 15:46:42 
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ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-25 12:31:00 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-25 16:04:52 
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ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-26 11:48:07 
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Jesus <rustybucket666@  2007-06-25 15:34:27 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-26 00:30:15 
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ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-26 11:52:40 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-26 14:34:10 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-26 22:11:08 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-27 03:07:28 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-26 21:39:37 
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C Lund <clund@[EMAIL P  2007-06-27 08:51:42 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-27 03:08:21 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-26 21:55:54 
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notinuse2@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-28 12:04:14 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-27 04:15:41 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-26 22:52:08 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-27 04:18:41 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-26 22:53:54 
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C Lund <clund@[EMAIL P  2007-06-27 08:55:54 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-06-27 11:24:10 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-27 04:31:11 
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ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-27 01:35:20 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-27 05:29:14 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-26 23:42:38 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-27 05:32:07 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-26 23:38:20 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-27 06:31:55 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-27 00:54:59 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-27 09:44:14 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-27 12:15:55 
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C Lund <clund@[EMAIL P  2007-06-28 08:56:39 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-27 12:18:46 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-06-27 11:28:16 
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C Lund <clund@[EMAIL P  2007-06-28 09:05:08 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-27 17:18:45 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-06-27 21:19:38 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-06-28 11:07:21 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-28 01:38:30 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-28 06:26:48 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-28 13:11:51 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-28 13:12:54 
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C Lund <clund@[EMAIL P  2007-06-29 08:45:59 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-28 13:15:16 
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asjbiotek@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-06-28 20:34:26 
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none <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-28 14:40:19 

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