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Re: advantages of forth over other languages

by Alex McDonald <blog@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 12, 2008 at 02:07 AM

On May 12, 4:06 am, Robert Spykerman <robert.spyker...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> On May 4, 6:06 am, Alex McDonald <b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > On May 3, 6:43 pm, John Doty <j...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > In my experience it's barriers in *programmers'* minds. I see
powerful
> > > evidence that that barrier exists in *your* mind, but you are blind
to
> > > it. It does not exist in mine. If a program is the right solution,
I'll
> > > write a program. But I might also compute a logarithm with a diode
(what
> > > fraction of programmers would ever consider that alternative?).
>
> > A very small fraction. I've often advocated this kind of lateral
> > thinking to colleagues. I say to them, why write a complex program to
> > do logs when there are alternatives like a slide rule smeared with
> > some raspberry jam? I keep a number of these small one ****tion jars in
> > my top drawer, but none of my colleagues ever has any.  How
> > shortsighted is that?
>
> Ok, I'm really curious, you got me baited. I have to ask:
>
> Tell me about slide rules and raspberry jam, is there some great
> secret I am not aware of?
>
> I didn't grow up in the era of slide rules but I've got a perfectly
> good one that does logs perfectly well without the aid of jam in any
> shape or form.
>
> Is your slide rule so well worn that you need raspberry jam to keep it
> from slipping? :P
>
> > Alex McDonald
>
> Robert Spykerman

I just don't find many programmers that use slide rules, raspberry jam
or diodes to work out logs. John Passaniti got to the nub of it when
he said;

<quote>
That's a painfully stupid question because it ignores both the domain
the programmer works in and their ability to affect the system.  So if
we're talking about a database programmer or a programmer writing
scripts to automate financial calculations in Excel, chances are their
training and experience wouldn't lead them to an analog solution.  But
even if they did have that background, what good would it be?  Where
exactly would they stick the diode in MySQL or Excel to act as a
logarithm coprocessor?  Duh.
</quote>

Quite. My poor attempt at humour was to point out that there may be a
solution domain for jam and diodes, but most programmers have a
limited supply of both. And slide rules are in scarce supply too.

--
Regards
Alex McDonald
 




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advantages of forth over other languages
Andreas Klimas <klimas  2007-10-03 00:09:20 
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"Celime" <cm  2007-10-03 16:59:11 
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John Passaniti <nntp@[  2007-10-03 17:35:37 
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Andreas Klimas <klimas  2007-10-03 23:41:47 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2007-10-03 21:31:42 
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John Passaniti <nntp@[  2007-10-05 00:11:14 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2007-10-04 18:54:59 
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Elizabeth D Rather <er  2007-10-04 15:54:29 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2007-10-04 20:42:38 
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Elizabeth D Rather <er  2007-10-04 17:38:16 
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Nils-Arne Dahlberg <ni  2007-10-05 12:45:52 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2007-10-05 12:03:05 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-10-05 06:01:01 
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Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2007-10-05 14:35:14 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-10-05 13:41:05 
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Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2007-10-06 14:01:19 
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"Celime" <cm  2007-10-05 14:41:36 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-10-05 13:41:05 
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"Celime" <cm  2007-10-05 14:32:52 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2007-10-03 12:15:17 
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"Celime" <cm  2007-10-05 14:36:07 
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Jason Damisch <jasonda  2007-10-03 10:50:17 
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John Passaniti <nntp@[  2007-10-03 18:13:48 
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helmwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-10-03 17:50:41 
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John Passaniti <nntp@[  2007-10-03 19:42:57 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2007-10-04 06:40:55 
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Andreas Klimas <klimas  2008-04-23 00:56:57 
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John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-04-23 22:21:34 
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Richard Owlett <rowlet  2008-04-23 20:56:47 
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John Passaniti <put-my  2008-04-23 23:55:14 
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Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-04-26 11:16:29 
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Clever Monkey <spamtra  2008-04-30 12:54:44 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-05-01 14:28:07 
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Clever Monkey <spamtra  2008-05-01 12:45:08 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-05-01 21:58:50 
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Clever Monkey <spamtra  2008-05-02 13:11:16 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-05-02 12:15:13 
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John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-05-02 20:58:26 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-05-02 18:28:21 
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John Passaniti <my-fir  2008-05-03 03:25:24 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-05-03 11:43:40 
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John Passaniti <put-my  2008-05-04 04:54:23 
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Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2008-05-04 00:30:45 
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Alex McDonald <blog@[E  2008-05-03 13:06:45 
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Clever Monkey <spamtra  2008-05-07 16:12:07 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-05-04 19:45:37 
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John Passaniti <my-fir  2008-05-06 04:11:01 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-05-06 12:35:30 
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John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-05-07 18:29:17 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-05-07 13:14:51 
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John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-05-07 20:45:17 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-05-07 13:21:16 
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John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-05-07 20:49:41 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-05-07 15:36:51 
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Brad Eckert <nospaambr  2008-05-08 08:08:13 
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Robert Spykerman <robe  2008-05-11 20:06:29 
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dhoffman@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-11 23:48:50 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-05-12 18:43:20 
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John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-05-13 19:52:50 
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Alex McDonald <blog@[E  2008-05-12 02:07:34 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2007-10-03 21:51:07 
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helmwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-10-03 20:00:21 
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Andreas Klimas <klimas  2007-10-03 23:52:19 
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helmwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-10-03 20:04:29 
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"slava@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-10-03 16:52:26 
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Andreas Klimas <klimas  2007-10-04 00:34:18 
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Andreas Klimas <klimas  2007-10-04 01:12:50 
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"slava@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-10-03 16:54:14 
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Andreas Klimas <klimas  2007-10-04 00:12:13 
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stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-10-04 10:40:23 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2007-10-04 05:51:23 
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Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2007-10-04 15:03:58 
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John Passaniti <nntp@[  2007-10-05 01:21:18 
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Elizabeth D Rather <er  2007-10-04 15:44:56 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2007-10-04 21:59:13 
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