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Re: What's right with FORTH and wrong with c.l.f.

by Alex McDonald <blog@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 7, 2008 at 05:56 AM

On May 5, 10:41 pm, John Passaniti <n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Aleksej Saushev wrote:
> >> And all the Forths adapted for Windows and *nix hosted platforms
> >> do feature easy mechanisms for calling C or other subroutines,
> >> so their users have the same access to libraries as anyone else.
>
> > I doubt that either.
>
> > It is a miracle, if you transparently create NUL-terminated strings
> > from pointer-counter pairs, and get the latter from the former at
> > the same ease. And I don't believe in such miracles.
>
> A subroutine call is a miracle?  For years, I've never had any problem
> passing string literals between programming languages.  All you have to
> do is choose a representation that makes everyone happy:
>
>         [count] [text] [0]
>
> When I want to pass this string to a language like C, I point to [text]
> and the null at the end keeps the usual library routines happy-- it
> doesn't see the leading count.  When I want to pass this string to a
> language like Forth, I either point to [text] and dereference [count],
> or I point to [count] as appropriate.  It doesn't see the null
terminator.

Exactly how Win32forth does it. Some string operators also append
silent nulls; there are very few cases where an explicit +null is
required, but +null is there if needed.

Without call support, most hosted Forths would be blind and dumb.

--
Regards
Alex McDonald




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What's right with FORTH and wrong with c.l.f.
Richard Owlett <rowlet  2008-04-30 16:14:51 
Re: What's right with FORTH and wrong with c.l.f.
mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-05-01 00:00:16 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-05-01 10:54:15 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-05-01 14:39:26 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-05-01 10:59:29 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-05-01 14:31:31 
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brian.fox@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-30 18:14:16 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-05-01 02:58:08 
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"The Beez'" <  2008-05-01 03:51:29 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-05-01 09:57:10 
string concatenation (was: What's right with FORTH ...)
anton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-01 15:28:43 
Re: string concatenation (was: What's right with FORTH ...)
stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-01 22:53:25 
Re: string concatenation (was: What's right with FORTH ...)
anton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-02 19:02:14 
Re: What's right with FORTH and wrong with c.l.f.
John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-05-01 22:17:22 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-05-01 14:57:46 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-05-01 13:04:35 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-05-01 18:34:31 
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Dick van Oudheusden <d  2008-05-02 03:07:49 
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Richard Owlett <rowlet  2008-05-02 15:58:00 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-05-02 04:51:55 
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Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-05-02 22:02:30 
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Marc Olschok <nobody@[  2008-05-02 18:20:38 
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Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-05-03 09:56:47 
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Marc Olschok <nobody@[  2008-05-03 20:16:22 
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Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-05-04 23:59:26 
Re: What's right with FORTH and wrong with c.l.f.
Marc Olschok <nobody@[  2008-05-05 21:45:18 
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Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-05-07 21:46:15 
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Marc Olschok <nobody@[  2008-05-12 18:20:59 
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stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-04 18:46:53 
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Richard Owlett <rowlet  2008-05-02 16:04:39 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-05-02 11:45:25 
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Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-05-03 11:44:38 
Re: What's right with FORTH and wrong with c.l.f.
Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-05-03 11:57:11 
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Elizabeth D Rather <er  2008-05-03 07:27:16 
Re: What's right with FORTH and wrong with c.l.f.
Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-05-04 23:26:57 
Re: What's right with FORTH and wrong with c.l.f.
John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-05-05 21:41:12 
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stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-07 10:16:30 
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Dick van Oudheusden <d  2008-05-04 03:04:44 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-05-05 16:35:43 
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astrobe <fdubois76@[EM  2008-05-07 05:08:02 
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Alex McDonald <blog@[E  2008-05-07 05:56:35 
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pml540114@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-15 06:21:25 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-05-15 21:31:30 

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