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Re: The OO approach

by Andrew Haley <andrew29@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 30, 2008 at 10:06 AM

Jonah Thomas <jethomas5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> John Passaniti <nntp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Jonah Thomas wrote:

>> > One of the early promises of OO was that great designers could set
>> > up OO systems that mediocre coders could then use, and the coders
>> > would find things arranged so simply that they wouldn't make
>> > mistakes. This promise has failed, probably inevitably. Instead we
>> > sometimes get mediocre designers making OO systems that get in the
>> > way for good programmers who come after them. Of course this is not
>> > exactly a flaw in OO, it's a misuse of OO. But the marketing promise
>> > that OO would be hard to misuse has failed.
>> 
>> Again with the unsup****ted statements.  We're supposed to believe that
>> 
>> OO hasn't delivered on a promise because... Jonah says so?  First, 
>> demonstrate the promise isn't just a straw man argument you're 
>> inventing.  Then, provide something more than anecdotal evidence for
>> the promise not being met.

> Don't believe anything just because I say so. 

We don't.

> For me this is a minor side issue. Arguing with you about it is
> useless to me. If I prove my point, you will drop this topic and
> pick on something else. If there's room to argue you'll go on
> arguing. Life's too short to spend it arguing about minor side
> issues with people who just want to pick at them.

> Agree or disagree, I don't care. I'll try to focus on the parts that are
> central to me.

It would be nice if you tried to focus on the parts you know something
about.

Andrew.
 




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The OO approach
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-27 18:11:17 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-27 18:58:22 
Re: The OO approach
John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-03-28 21:10:34 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-28 22:50:39 
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John Passaniti <put-my  2008-03-29 15:17:29 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-30 10:56:21 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-29 17:09:06 
Re: The OO approach
kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-30 10:56:21 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-30 10:13:54 
Re: The OO approach
John Passaniti <john.p  2008-03-27 23:14:16 
Re: The OO approach
Gerry <gerry@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-28 03:40:23 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-03-28 10:59:05 
Re: The OO approach
John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-03-28 16:30:25 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-28 08:40:42 
Re: The OO approach
"Jenny Brien" &  2008-03-28 17:44:14 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-28 09:02:15 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-28 11:08:40 
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William James <w_a_x_m  2008-03-29 14:30:10 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-28 07:11:12 
Re: The OO approach
Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2008-03-28 14:18:04 
Re: The OO approach
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-28 08:32:11 
Re: The OO approach
John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-03-28 20:57:19 
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Helmar <helmwo@[EMAIL   2008-03-28 12:48:52 
Re: The OO approach
Doug Hoffman <no.spam&  2008-03-29 08:57:02 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-29 09:41:35 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-29 09:56:23 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-29 10:44:15 
Re: The OO approach
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-29 12:08:22 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-29 12:39:02 
Re: The OO approach
Elizabeth D Rather <er  2008-03-29 07:30:55 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-29 10:54:20 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-29 13:34:25 
Re: The OO approach
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-29 22:33:31 
Re: The OO approach
John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-03-30 06:09:07 
Re: The OO approach
Andrew Haley <andrew29  2008-03-30 10:06:31 
Re: The OO approach
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-30 08:39:30 

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