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Re: The OO approach

by William James <w_a_x_man@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 29, 2008 at 02:30 PM

On Mar 28, 2:57 pm, John Passaniti <n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Jonah Thomas wrote:
> > One of the early promises of OO was that great designers could set up
OO
> > systems that mediocre coders could then use, and the coders would find
> > things arranged so simply that they wouldn't make mistakes. This
promise
> > has failed, probably inevitably. Instead we sometimes get mediocre
> > designers making OO systems that get in the way for good programmers
who
> > come after them. Of course this is not exactly a flaw in OO, it's a
> > misuse of OO. But the marketing promise that OO would be hard to
misuse
> > has failed.
>
> Again with the unsup****ted statements.  We're supposed to believe that
> OO hasn't delivered on a promise because... Jonah says so?  First,
> demonstrate the promise isn't just a straw man argument you're
> inventing.  Then, provide something more than anecdotal evidence for the
> promise not being met.
>
> In the process of doing this, feel free to throw away marketing hype.
> When you're at home watching television and you see a commercial for
> Tasty Yumyums with happy people dancing around, you ignore it.  You
> ignore it (and the claim that Tasty Yumyums are the most amazingly
> delicious awesome snack ever) because you're older than 12 and you've
> got a brain.  You can apply common sense and intuition.

I don't think that he can.  He has a need to believe that
the crudest dialect of Forth is superior to every other
language.  That is what gives him a warm and fuzzy feeling.
 




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The OO approach
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-27 18:11:17 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-27 18:58:22 
Re: The OO approach
John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-03-28 21:10:34 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-28 22:50:39 
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John Passaniti <put-my  2008-03-29 15:17:29 
Re: The OO approach
kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-30 10:56:21 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-29 17:09:06 
Re: The OO approach
kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-30 10:56:21 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-30 10:13:54 
Re: The OO approach
John Passaniti <john.p  2008-03-27 23:14:16 
Re: The OO approach
Gerry <gerry@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-28 03:40:23 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-03-28 10:59:05 
Re: The OO approach
John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-03-28 16:30:25 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-28 08:40:42 
Re: The OO approach
"Jenny Brien" &  2008-03-28 17:44:14 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-28 09:02:15 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-28 11:08:40 
Re: The OO approach
William James <w_a_x_m  2008-03-29 14:30:10 
Re: The OO approach
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-28 07:11:12 
Re: The OO approach
Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2008-03-28 14:18:04 
Re: The OO approach
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-28 08:32:11 
Re: The OO approach
John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-03-28 20:57:19 
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Helmar <helmwo@[EMAIL   2008-03-28 12:48:52 
Re: The OO approach
Doug Hoffman <no.spam&  2008-03-29 08:57:02 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-29 09:41:35 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-29 09:56:23 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-29 10:44:15 
Re: The OO approach
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-29 12:08:22 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-29 12:39:02 
Re: The OO approach
Elizabeth D Rather <er  2008-03-29 07:30:55 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-29 10:54:20 
Re: The OO approach
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-29 13:34:25 
Re: The OO approach
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-29 22:33:31 
Re: The OO approach
John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-03-30 06:09:07 
Re: The OO approach
Andrew Haley <andrew29  2008-03-30 10:06:31 
Re: The OO approach
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-30 08:39:30 

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