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Re: The OO approach

by John Passaniti <nntp@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 28, 2008 at 08:57 PM

Jonah Thomas wrote:
> One of the early promises of OO was that great designers could set up OO
> systems that mediocre coders could then use, and the coders would find
> things arranged so simply that they wouldn't make mistakes. This promise
> has failed, probably inevitably. Instead we sometimes get mediocre
> designers making OO systems that get in the way for good programmers who
> come after them. Of course this is not exactly a flaw in OO, it's a
> misuse of OO. But the marketing promise that OO would be hard to misuse
> has failed.

Again with the unsup****ted statements.  We're supposed to believe that 
OO hasn't delivered on a promise because... Jonah says so?  First, 
demonstrate the promise isn't just a straw man argument you're 
inventing.  Then, provide something more than anecdotal evidence for the 
promise not being met.

In the process of doing this, feel free to throw away marketing hype. 
When you're at home watching television and you see a commercial for 
Tasty Yumyums with happy people dancing around, you ignore it.  You 
ignore it (and the claim that Tasty Yumyums are the most amazingly 
delicious awesome snack ever) because you're older than 12 and you've 
got a brain.  You can apply common sense and intuition.  You can apply 
experience.  You can be skeptical.

So if you're able to avoid the allure of Tasty Yumyum's marketing hype, 
I assume you can apply the same brain to other kinds of marketing hype. 
  If some OO vendor promises you a silver bullet, why do you accept it? 
  If some consultant says that by using OO, all your problems fade away, 
why would you accept it?
 




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The OO approach
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-27 18:11:17 
Re: The OO approach
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-27 18:58:22 
Re: The OO approach
John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-03-28 21:10:34 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-28 22:50:39 
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John Passaniti <put-my  2008-03-29 15:17:29 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-30 10:56:21 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-29 17:09:06 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-30 10:56:21 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-30 10:13:54 
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John Passaniti <john.p  2008-03-27 23:14:16 
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Gerry <gerry@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-28 03:40:23 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-03-28 10:59:05 
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John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-03-28 16:30:25 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-28 08:40:42 
Re: The OO approach
"Jenny Brien" &  2008-03-28 17:44:14 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-28 09:02:15 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-28 11:08:40 
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William James <w_a_x_m  2008-03-29 14:30:10 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-28 07:11:12 
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Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2008-03-28 14:18:04 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-28 08:32:11 
Re: The OO approach
John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-03-28 20:57:19 
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Helmar <helmwo@[EMAIL   2008-03-28 12:48:52 
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Doug Hoffman <no.spam&  2008-03-29 08:57:02 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-29 09:41:35 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-29 09:56:23 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-29 10:44:15 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-29 12:08:22 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-29 12:39:02 
Re: The OO approach
Elizabeth D Rather <er  2008-03-29 07:30:55 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-29 10:54:20 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-29 13:34:25 
Re: The OO approach
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-29 22:33:31 
Re: The OO approach
John Passaniti <nntp@[  2008-03-30 06:09:07 
Re: The OO approach
Andrew Haley <andrew29  2008-03-30 10:06:31 
Re: The OO approach
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-30 08:39:30 

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