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Re: BETWEEN

by Bruce McFarling <agila61@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 14, 2008 at 06:45 AM

On Mar 13, 11:50 pm, "Ed" <nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "Bruce McFarling" <agil...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message

> > On Mar 13, 9:50 pm, "Ed" <nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > Implementation.  BETWEEN can't be defined from WITHIN and
> > > vice-versa.

> > This is false. It can't be defined from WITHIN without handling the
> > boundary case separately. See previous:

> > : BETWEEN ( x1 x2 x3 -- fl ) 1+ 2DUP = >R WITHIN R> OR ;

> > ... its just that the (Anton's) version of the definition of BETWEEN
> > without WITHIN is cleaner.

> Yes, I saw that in an earlier post.

> It's best to avoid workarounds if at all possible.  They slow things
> down and can introduce errors, which need more work-arounds...
> In the end it becomes impossible to maintain.  A nice example of
> work-arounds is FPOUT v2.2 :)

That's not a work-around, its a boundary correction. Its just that it
does about as much stack manipulation to use ``WITHIN'' correctly as
to directly compute ``BETWEEN'', so in this particular case the game
is not worth the candle.

> > And of course AFAIR, even in a 32-bit system with Unicode UTF32
> > characters,

> > : BETWEEN ( c1 c2 c3 -- fl ) 1+ WITHIN ;

> > ... is valid ... that is, if I recollect correctly $FFFFFFFF is
> > reserved and can not be a valid character code point.

> I hope you'll be calling it something other than BETWEEN :)

You mean like ``among-chars?''?

I don't know that I would bother factoring at that level anyway ...
the supposedly terrible 1+ WITHIN in this case would normally be in
low level code that will be hidden:

.... (1) TRUE >R @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (2) BEGIN
    DUP R@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 AND WHILE \ next-charset exists and still looking?
        2DUP CELL+ 2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 1+ WITHIN 0= IF RDROP FALSE >R THEN
REPEAT DROP R> NOT
....
\ (1) ( c &charset-list )
\ (2) ( c &charset#l R: fl-continue? )

I think I'd be factoring out ``CELL+ 2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 1+ WITHIN'', since it starts
with the character to be matched and the address of a whole item from
the linked charset structure.
 




 151 Posts in Topic:
BETWEEN
"Ed" <nospam  2008-03-11 10:05:05 
Re: BETWEEN
Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-10 23:27:36 
Re: BETWEEN
"Ed" <nospam  2008-03-12 10:59:55 
Re: BETWEEN
Coos Haak <chforth@[EM  2008-03-12 02:02:50 
Re: BETWEEN
"Ed" <nospam  2008-03-14 12:44:03 
Re: BETWEEN
Coos Haak <chforth@[EM  2008-03-14 19:55:40 
Re: BETWEEN
Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-11 23:38:22 
Re: BETWEEN
Elizabeth D Rather <er  2008-03-11 21:57:31 
Re: BETWEEN
"Ed" <nospam  2008-03-14 12:50:14 
Re: BETWEEN
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-21 06:59:32 
Re: BETWEEN
Andrew Haley <andrew29  2008-03-21 15:16:33 
Re: BETWEEN
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-11 20:06:28 
Re: BETWEEN
Coos Haak <chforth@[EM  2008-03-12 19:29:05 
Re: BETWEEN
William James <w_a_x_m  2008-03-12 02:28:18 
Re: BETWEEN
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-12 11:56:09 
Re: BETWEEN
Coos Haak <chforth@[EM  2008-03-12 20:21:19 
Re: BETWEEN
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-12 12:43:41 
Re: BETWEEN
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-13 18:59:54 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-13 19:07:20 
Re: BETWEEN
"Ed" <nospam  2008-03-14 14:50:16 
Re: BETWEEN
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-14 06:45:40 
Re: BETWEEN
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-14 07:32:38 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-14 07:38:48 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-14 13:57:04 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-16 13:27:20 
Re: BETWEEN
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-18 08:51:45 
Re: BETWEEN
anton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-18 19:49:37 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-20 14:16:42 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-20 14:20:37 
Re: BETWEEN
Andrew Haley <andrew29  2008-03-21 11:44:48 
Re: BETWEEN
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-20 15:31:50 
Re: BETWEEN
William James <w_a_x_m  2008-03-12 02:41:44 
Re: BETWEEN
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-12 08:47:12 
Re: BETWEEN
Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-12 12:14:00 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-12 11:14:39 
Re: BETWEEN
mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-03-12 19:29:03 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-12 14:57:02 
Re: BETWEEN
Brad Eckert <nospaambr  2008-03-14 08:23:24 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-03-14 09:33:12 
Re: BETWEEN
William James <w_a_x_m  2008-03-15 12:56:09 
Re: BETWEEN
"Ed" <nospam  2008-03-16 17:44:01 
Re: BETWEEN
Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-16 08:57:06 
Re: BETWEEN
Andrew Haley <andrew29  2008-03-17 11:02:53 
Re: BETWEEN
Elizabeth D Rather <er  2008-03-17 10:31:11 
Re: BETWEEN
John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-03-16 08:08:44 
Re: BETWEEN
"Ed" <nospam  2008-03-20 11:38:02 
Re: BETWEEN
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-15 13:43:21 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-15 17:09:04 
Re: BETWEEN
Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-03-16 04:15:04 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-15 21:11:00 
Re: BETWEEN
Josh Grams <josh@[EMAI  2008-03-16 13:09:01 
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Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2008-03-16 14:21:15 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-16 13:34:47 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-16 13:41:06 
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Brad Eckert <nospaambr  2008-03-20 07:55:09 
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"Ed" <nospam  2008-03-29 12:50:55 
Re: BETWEEN
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-31 10:32:03 
Re: BETWEEN
Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-31 13:40:23 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-31 11:09:41 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-31 16:17:43 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-31 14:43:42 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-31 15:46:09 
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Robert Spykerman <robe  2008-03-31 20:38:09 
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Robert Spykerman <robe  2008-03-31 21:17:44 
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"Ed" <nospam  2008-04-02 00:00:00 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-04-04 08:15:18 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-12 07:53:19 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-03-12 18:13:20 
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anton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-13 10:17:59 
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"Ed" <nospam  2008-03-14 13:39:47 
Re: BETWEEN
Coos Haak <chforth@[EM  2008-03-14 20:01:22 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-03-14 20:15:44 
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Coos Haak <chforth@[EM  2008-03-14 20:22:52 
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"Ed" <nospam  2008-03-15 12:05:20 
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Coos Haak <chforth@[EM  2008-03-15 13:29:06 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-13 12:29:14 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-03-13 11:17:54 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-13 13:30:49 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-03-13 11:45:23 
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David Thompson <dave.t  2008-03-31 04:27:44 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-12 10:58:12 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-12 12:35:02 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-12 14:54:19 
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William James <w_a_x_m  2008-03-13 11:24:23 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-03-13 12:52:26 
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William James <w_a_x_m  2008-03-13 12:17:12 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-03-13 13:33:20 
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anton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-13 19:51:14 
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William James <w_a_x_m  2008-03-13 14:48:22 
Re: BETWEEN
Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-13 18:04:08 
c-version, was Re: BETWEEN
Albert van der Horst <  2008-03-14 09:09:50 
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anton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-14 11:37:38 
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William James <w_a_x_m  2008-03-13 14:58:01 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-13 18:17:33 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-03-13 16:48:39 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-13 19:14:32 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-03-13 17:31:16 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-03-14 09:30:54 
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Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-03-15 02:07:32 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-03-14 19:21:08 
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Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-03-15 14:33:26 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-15 11:29:17 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-03-15 11:00:02 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-15 13:34:31 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-03-15 11:48:39 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-15 14:02:32 
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Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-03-15 21:27:37 
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Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-03-15 20:15:10 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-15 13:48:20 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-03-16 13:43:28 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-16 11:38:32 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-03-15 17:11:08 
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Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-03-16 04:07:29 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-14 23:44:25 
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Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-03-15 15:05:03 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-03-15 17:36:43 
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Aleksej Saushev <asau@  2008-03-16 04:12:06 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-14 08:19:15 
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Andrew Haley <andrew29  2008-03-14 14:18:34 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-18 00:00:17 
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Andrew Haley <andrew29  2008-03-18 12:13:01 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-18 11:41:04 
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Andrew Haley <andrew29  2008-03-18 16:15:39 
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"Ed" <nospam  2008-03-15 12:40:01 
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Andrew Haley <andrew29  2008-03-15 10:05:21 
Re: BETWEEN
"Ed" <nospam  2008-03-16 16:56:01 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-16 08:50:11 
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"Ed" <nospam  2008-03-18 10:48:20 
Re: BETWEEN
Coos Haak <chforth@[EM  2008-03-18 00:55:08 
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"Ed" <nospam  2008-03-20 11:36:33 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-18 00:03:13 
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Duke Normandin <dukeof  2008-03-17 23:28:44 
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Coos Haak <chforth@[EM  2008-03-18 00:52:09 
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Andrew Haley <andrew29  2008-03-18 12:11:31 
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Duke Normandin <dukeof  2008-03-18 00:51:56 
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John Doty <jpd@[EMAIL   2008-03-17 19:10:30 
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Duke Normandin <dukeof  2008-03-18 05:40:19 
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Coos Haak <chforth@[EM  2008-03-18 18:32:33 
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Duke Normandin <dukeof  2008-03-19 02:09:21 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-14 10:33:48 
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Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-14 10:40:29 
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William James <w_a_x_m  2008-03-14 09:21:41 
Re: BETWEEN
Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-14 09:49:52 
Re: BETWEEN
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-16 10:24:22 
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Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-03-16 11:35:57 
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Andrew Haley <andrew29  2008-03-17 10:37:08 
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Bruce McFarling <agila  2008-03-20 04:32:31 
Re: BETWEEN
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-31 17:21:03 
Re: BETWEEN
"Ed" <nospam  2008-04-05 01:28:53 
Re: BETWEEN
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-03-31 18:05:58 
Re: BETWEEN
Jonah Thomas <jethomas  2008-04-04 14:46:19 

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