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Re: Forth Testing Tools?

by "Ed" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 28, 2008 at 12:18 PM

"Krishna Myneni" <krishnamyneni@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Ed wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > Which suggests that test suites are mostly a "feel good" utility
> > i.e. one feels good when it p***** but otherwise has little value.
> > It impresses the customer but that's about all.
> >
> > Who would find Hayes useful?  Probably not someone who has
> > brought up a forth.  ...
>
> Are you considering only testing of Forth systems? What about using the
test
> suite to test applications? For instance, the extended version of the
Hayes
> tester, incor****ating extensions by David Williams and Anton Ertl, have
proved
> valuable in finding problems with the Forth Scientific Library modules.
These
> problems went unnoticed for many years. The findings are do***ented in
an
> earlier thread on automated FSL tests.

Bugs go by unnoticed because the program (or parts of it) haven't been
exercised.  It's hard to believe that a well-used program would not show
up its errors relatively quickly.  It may be that FSL modules just don't
get used.

My background is electronics instrumentation.  These days most have
built-in self-diagnostics.  They're there to provide the user with a quick
way to determine whether the instrument is basically functional.  They
don't, nor can they, determine whether a fault exits.

I have nothing against the Hayes suite.  If it shows up a problem then
it's better than if the error remained unfound.
 




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Forth Testing Tools?
Josh Grams <josh@[EMAI  2008-02-24 09:52:46 
Re: Forth Testing Tools?
anton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-24 21:10:47 
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Dennis Ruffer <druffer  2008-02-24 23:43:04 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-02-25 02:39:41 
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"Ed" <nospam  2008-02-25 23:52:59 
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Krishna Myneni <krishn  2008-02-26 18:20:56 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-02-27 12:54:24 
Re: Forth Testing Tools?
"Ed" <nospam  2008-02-28 12:18:53 
Re: Forth Testing Tools?
Krishna Myneni <krishn  2008-02-28 08:13:40 
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"Ed" <nospam  2008-03-01 13:21:06 
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anton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-27 21:05:32 
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Josh Grams <josh@[EMAI  2008-02-25 07:40:19 
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Charles Turner <vze26m  2008-02-26 04:14:03 
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Gerry <gerry@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-26 09:47:07 
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Josh Grams <josh@[EMAI  2008-02-26 18:46:51 
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Krishna Myneni <krishn  2008-02-26 21:57:00 
Re: Forth Testing Tools?
Dennis Ruffer <druffer  2008-02-27 19:18:04 
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Josh Grams <josh@[EMAI  2008-04-04 02:13:35 
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Josh Grams <josh@[EMAI  2008-02-28 06:17:39 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-02-28 17:23:48 
Re: Forth Testing Tools?
Dennis Ruffer <druffer  2008-02-28 17:34:10 
Re: Forth Testing Tools?
Josh Grams <josh@[EMAI  2008-02-28 10:38:27 
Re: Forth Testing Tools?
Josh Grams <josh@[EMAI  2008-02-28 10:54:29 
Re: Forth Testing Tools?
Dennis Ruffer <druffer  2008-03-01 17:24:22 
Re: Forth Testing Tools?
Dennis Ruffer <druffer  2008-03-01 18:26:51 

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