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Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better version.

by Albert van der Horst <albert@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 8, 2008 at 08:13 AM

In article <flus86$366$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Rod Pemberton <do_not_have@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>"Stephen Pelc" <stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:478201e9.1788292609@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> For Forth to Forth translation look at Timbre by Rob Chapman. Others
>> have used it for host and embedded compilation.
>>
>
>Actually, you may have referred me to the works of the correct person. 
It
>appears that Rob Chapman's "Stack Quarks" Sept. 15, 1995 are the solution
to
>optimizing FORTH stack words for x86 assembly.  He defines six words:
>
>  DIP DRIP NUP NIP TUCK TAKE
>
>Each of these corresponds 1:1 to x86 assembly instructions, as the C
>versions in "Script.3" shows, i.e., they correspond to mov, push, or pop.

Interesting idea!

>NIP and TUCK appear to be the standard definitions.  DROP, DUP, SWAP,
OVER,
>are defined in terms of the six.  I don't see definitions for ROT, or
-ROT.
>From the article, it seems he has/had a Timbre script for converting
FORTH
>stack instructions similar to the java app.  The results using that app
>showed that DUP,DROP,OVER correspond 1:1 to x86 assembly, but that SWAP,
or
>another stack ****ft instruction (ROT,-ROT,ROLL) was im****tant. 
Relocating
>the physical stack from location 0 to 2 of the virtual stack does
wonders...

Isn't that dangerous in the situation of the x86 where the stack is
used by interrupts too?

>
>http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/rc/Timbre/ContentPages/Timbre/SQP/StackQuarksPaper.html
>
>Oddly, I see no discussion of this paper or his FORTH words in the
archives
>of c.l.f. (?!?!)  Or, on usenet in general...
>
>
>Rod Pemberton
>

Groetjes Albert

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I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better version.
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 00:26:01 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 09:22:17 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 04:37:47 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 11:00:53 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 06:10:48 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 06:24:17 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 12:58:34 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:27:20 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Coos Haak <chforth@[EM  2008-01-06 21:16:07 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Ed" <nospam  2008-01-07 17:51:08 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Albert van der Horst <  2008-01-07 17:22:03 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 13:00:32 
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none <""jan\  2008-01-06 14:07:31 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 15:27:04 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:32:53 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:05:30 
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stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-06 13:42:55 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 06:09:25 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-06 13:46:06 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 18:25:08 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-07 10:58:44 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-07 21:39:25 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-07 22:57:58 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Albert van der Horst <  2008-01-08 08:13:03 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-08 05:07:03 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Albert van der Horst <  2008-01-08 18:26:32 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Alex McDonald <blog@[E  2008-01-08 03:04:52 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Roelf Toxopeus <these3  2008-01-06 15:24:29 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better
winston19842005 <bjjly  2008-01-06 10:13:11 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:01:26 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:52:02 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:54:01 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2008-01-06 18:34:43 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
helmwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-06 10:27:48 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 13:26:05 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2008-01-06 23:02:25 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-07 09:47:13 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 13:43:00 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Jenny Brien <jennybrie  2008-01-08 14:06:38 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Bill <bill@[EMAIL PROT  2008-01-08 21:20:47 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-09 04:57:34 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Jenny Brien <jennybrie  2008-01-10 09:50:29 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-11 03:34:02 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Jenny Brien" &  2008-01-11 17:49:07 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-12 04:31:21 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
astrobe <fdubois76@[EM  2008-01-14 09:31:33 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-19 10:11:10 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-20 15:33:32 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
ygrek <ygrek@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 12:31:47 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 17:58:45 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
anton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-06 18:22:00 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 18:18:56 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
ygrek <ygrek@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-07 09:05:18 

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