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Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better version.

by "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 7, 2008 at 10:57 PM

"Stephen Pelc" <stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:478201e9.1788292609@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For Forth to Forth translation look at Timbre by Rob Chapman. Others
> have used it for host and embedded compilation.
>

Actually, you may have referred me to the works of the correct person.  It
appears that Rob Chapman's "Stack Quarks" Sept. 15, 1995 are the solution
to
optimizing FORTH stack words for x86 assembly.  He defines six words:

  DIP DRIP NUP NIP TUCK TAKE

Each of these corresponds 1:1 to x86 assembly instructions, as the C
versions in "Script.3" shows, i.e., they correspond to mov, push, or pop.
NIP and TUCK appear to be the standard definitions.  DROP, DUP, SWAP,
OVER,
are defined in terms of the six.  I don't see definitions for ROT, or
-ROT.
From the article, it seems he has/had a Timbre script for converting FORTH
stack instructions similar to the java app.  The results using that app
showed that DUP,DROP,OVER correspond 1:1 to x86 assembly, but that SWAP,
or
another stack ****ft instruction (ROT,-ROT,ROLL) was im****tant.  Relocating
the physical stack from location 0 to 2 of the virtual stack does
wonders...

http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/rc/Timbre/ContentPages/Timbre/SQP/StackQuarksPaper.html

Oddly, I see no discussion of this paper or his FORTH words in the
archives
of c.l.f. (?!?!)  Or, on usenet in general...


Rod Pemberton
 




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I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better version.
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 00:26:01 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 09:22:17 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 04:37:47 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 11:00:53 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 06:10:48 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 06:24:17 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 12:58:34 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:27:20 
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Coos Haak <chforth@[EM  2008-01-06 21:16:07 
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"Ed" <nospam  2008-01-07 17:51:08 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-01-07 17:22:03 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 13:00:32 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 15:27:04 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:32:53 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:05:30 
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stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-06 13:42:55 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 06:09:25 
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stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-06 13:46:06 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 18:25:08 
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stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-07 10:58:44 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-07 21:39:25 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-07 22:57:58 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-01-08 08:13:03 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-08 05:07:03 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-01-08 18:26:32 
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Alex McDonald <blog@[E  2008-01-08 03:04:52 
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Roelf Toxopeus <these3  2008-01-06 15:24:29 
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winston19842005 <bjjly  2008-01-06 10:13:11 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:01:26 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:52:02 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:54:01 
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Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2008-01-06 18:34:43 
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helmwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-06 10:27:48 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 13:26:05 
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Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2008-01-06 23:02:25 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-07 09:47:13 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 13:43:00 
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Jenny Brien <jennybrie  2008-01-08 14:06:38 
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Bill <bill@[EMAIL PROT  2008-01-08 21:20:47 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-09 04:57:34 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Jenny Brien <jennybrie  2008-01-10 09:50:29 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-11 03:34:02 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Jenny Brien" &  2008-01-11 17:49:07 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-12 04:31:21 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
astrobe <fdubois76@[EM  2008-01-14 09:31:33 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-19 10:11:10 
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stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-20 15:33:32 
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ygrek <ygrek@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 12:31:47 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 17:58:45 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
anton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-06 18:22:00 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 18:18:56 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
ygrek <ygrek@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-07 09:05:18 

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