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Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better version.

by stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Pelc) Jan 7, 2008 at 10:58 AM

On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 18:25:08 -0500, "Rod Pemberton"
<do_not_have@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>> What you are describing is essentially a rule-based or pattern
>> matching compiler.
>
>Yes, it's the basic method used by most HLL compilers, e.g., C to
generate
>efficient instruction sequences given a set of assembly instructions,
each
>one of which is defined in terms of a set of micro-operations.

That's peep-hole optimisation in my terms, where we can look at
the compiler in terms of three sequences
  front-end source tokenisation (maybe with rules)
  instruction generation
  peephole optimisation (maybe with rules)

Pattern-matchers are good for the first and third of these, but
very limited for the second. VFX focuses on the second case. The
first stage is handled by a very limited set of rules, less than
a dozen for most CPU architectures. For most CPUs, you should
consider the first and second before you look at the third.

>If you're referring to a FORTH to machine or assembly language compiler
(not
>a traditional FORTH environment and not a FORTH meta-compiler), do you
know
>of any where I can look at the output post analysis or post optimization?
>Or, know of any which do FORTH to FORTH translation?

For VFX, define
: foo ... ;
dis foo

For Forth to Forth translation look at Timbre by Rob Chapman. Others
have used it for host and embedded compilation.

Stephen


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I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better version.
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 00:26:01 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 09:22:17 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 04:37:47 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 11:00:53 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 06:10:48 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 06:24:17 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 12:58:34 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:27:20 
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Coos Haak <chforth@[EM  2008-01-06 21:16:07 
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"Ed" <nospam  2008-01-07 17:51:08 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-01-07 17:22:03 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 13:00:32 
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none <""jan\  2008-01-06 14:07:31 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 15:27:04 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:32:53 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:05:30 
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stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-06 13:42:55 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 06:09:25 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-06 13:46:06 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 18:25:08 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-07 10:58:44 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-07 21:39:25 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-07 22:57:58 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Albert van der Horst <  2008-01-08 08:13:03 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-08 05:07:03 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Albert van der Horst <  2008-01-08 18:26:32 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Alex McDonald <blog@[E  2008-01-08 03:04:52 
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Roelf Toxopeus <these3  2008-01-06 15:24:29 
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winston19842005 <bjjly  2008-01-06 10:13:11 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:01:26 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:52:02 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:54:01 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2008-01-06 18:34:43 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
helmwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-06 10:27:48 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 13:26:05 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2008-01-06 23:02:25 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-07 09:47:13 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 13:43:00 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Jenny Brien <jennybrie  2008-01-08 14:06:38 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Bill <bill@[EMAIL PROT  2008-01-08 21:20:47 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-09 04:57:34 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
Jenny Brien <jennybrie  2008-01-10 09:50:29 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-11 03:34:02 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Jenny Brien" &  2008-01-11 17:49:07 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-12 04:31:21 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
astrobe <fdubois76@[EM  2008-01-14 09:31:33 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-19 10:11:10 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-20 15:33:32 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
ygrek <ygrek@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 12:31:47 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 17:58:45 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
anton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-06 18:22:00 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 18:18:56 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
ygrek <ygrek@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-07 09:05:18 

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