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Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better version.

by Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 6, 2008 at 06:34 PM

foxchip wrote:
> Simple peephole optimizers are often used
> to patch badly generated code this way.

The quite simple peephole optimizer I've implemented in bigFORTH nearly 20
years ago wasn't there to improve badly code; most patterns I've put in
were there to improve good code. But it is a peephole optimizer on the
machine code level (68k and later x86 machine code). The intention was to
be simple (the rule interpreter is two screens, the rules themselves take
a
line each), fast and reversible. SEE can undo most of the optimizations to
figure out what kind of source code might have generated the machine code.

Today, a real native code compiler can be a factor 1.5-2 faster for good
code, and a factor 5-10 for bad code. I've started a real native code
compiler for my 4stack processor (quite different target), and I'm
planning
to implement one with similar algorithms for x86_64, where the additional
registers increase the benefit vs. the peephole optimizer. As time
permits,
for sure.

-- 
Bernd Paysan
"If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
http://www.jwdt.com/~paysan/
 




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I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better version.
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 00:26:01 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 09:22:17 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 04:37:47 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 11:00:53 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 06:10:48 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 06:24:17 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 12:58:34 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:27:20 
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Coos Haak <chforth@[EM  2008-01-06 21:16:07 
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"Ed" <nospam  2008-01-07 17:51:08 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-01-07 17:22:03 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 13:00:32 
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none <""jan\  2008-01-06 14:07:31 
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mhx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-01-06 15:27:04 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:32:53 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:05:30 
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stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-06 13:42:55 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 06:09:25 
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stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-06 13:46:06 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 18:25:08 
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stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-07 10:58:44 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-07 21:39:25 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-07 22:57:58 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-01-08 08:13:03 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-08 05:07:03 
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Albert van der Horst <  2008-01-08 18:26:32 
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Alex McDonald <blog@[E  2008-01-08 03:04:52 
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Roelf Toxopeus <these3  2008-01-06 15:24:29 
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winston19842005 <bjjly  2008-01-06 10:13:11 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:01:26 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:52:02 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 08:54:01 
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Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2008-01-06 18:34:43 
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helmwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-06 10:27:48 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 13:26:05 
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Bernd Paysan <bernd.pa  2008-01-06 23:02:25 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-07 09:47:13 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 13:43:00 
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Jenny Brien <jennybrie  2008-01-08 14:06:38 
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Bill <bill@[EMAIL PROT  2008-01-08 21:20:47 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-09 04:57:34 
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Jenny Brien <jennybrie  2008-01-10 09:50:29 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-11 03:34:02 
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"Jenny Brien" &  2008-01-11 17:49:07 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-12 04:31:21 
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astrobe <fdubois76@[EM  2008-01-14 09:31:33 
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foxchip <fox@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-19 10:11:10 
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stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-01-20 15:33:32 
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ygrek <ygrek@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-06 12:31:47 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 17:58:45 
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anton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-06 18:22:00 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-01-06 18:18:56 
Re: I found a FORTH stack optimzer, but could use a better versi
ygrek <ygrek@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-07 09:05:18 

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