Re: advantages of forth over other languages

On Oct 3, 10:35 am, John Passaniti <n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

Oh, it's Pissanti again.

FLAME-SUIT DON  FLAMETHROWER ARM   FLAMETHROWER AIM

> Celime wrote:
> > Todays programmings languages are so distant from Forth that it
appears
> > impossible to me to explain the advantages of Forth to the young
> > programmers.
>
> So much of the discussion in comp.lang.forth is about Forth's
> advantages, but I rarely see anyone talking about Forth's disadvantages.

Forth has no disadvantages that I see except for the fact that the
people in power have damned it to hell.  It provides too much freedom
and they hate freedom.

>   Could it be the "young programmers" you are talking to fully grok
> Forth's advantages, but they may see disadvantages that you don't?

No, it's just that the establishment has become so good at programming
the youth that youth can never see past the directives of the empire.
Double Plus Good.  ++

> Could it also be that you're assuming that advantages in one domain
> equates to advantages in another?  Forth is a great language for
> embedded systems.  That doesn't mean that Forth is necessarily a great
> language for web-based applications.

Forth is a multipurpose language like C, it can and should be used for
everything.

> Another question:  Many times in comp.lang.forth we see Forth compared
> to "other languages."  But in reality, there is rarely a comparison to
> "other languages."  Usually the comparison is with C, ignoring the much
> larger universe of languages out there.  And certainly, when comparing
> Forth and C, there are a number of advantages.  But when you start
> looking outside C, some of the features that were traditionally seen as
> unique in Forth are actually common.

There is really in my mind only two langauges, Forth and Algol.

If you want to be a gaming pagan about it,  Forth is Chaotic Good, and
all other languages are Lawful Evil.

Jason