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Re: The same Forth on different OS

by "Alex McDonald" <alex_mcd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 19, 2004 at 03:46 PM

"Mike Hore" <mikehoreREM@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:BD4A21EF.4CD6C%mikehoreREM@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Alex McDonald wrote:
>
> >...
> > Which is where the problem starts. The kernel is heavily dependant on
the
> > Intel x86 architecture, which is not what a Mac uses; it's Motorola
68000
> > based.
>
> Hi Alex, just a tiny nitpick -- since 1992 or thereabouts, it's based
> on the PowerPC.
>
> But the point stands that this is still big-endian, and VERY different
> from the x86 (or should I say ia32?) line of processors.
>

Thank you for the correction; I should have known about PowerPC.

>
> >> Remember that the modern trend in programming is the MVC
> >> (model-view-controller) architecture, where roles are well
> >> defined and separated in different software entities.
> >>
> >> I post also this message to comp.lang.forth.mac
> >>
> >
> > I suspect this is a different Forth altogether, that would require to
be
> > built from the ground up. There's just too mich baggage in W32F (I
can't
> > speak for MOPS, but the same is possibly true).
>
> Possibly, though there's no technical reason that a new class
> structure couldn't be written to sit above the code generator.
>
> The problems aren't technical, they're just practical -- everyone's got
> day jobs, and not enough time to take on such a big effort.  There
> would have to be an obvious big payoff to justify the time taken.
>
> Then even if there were volunteers, the whole thing would have to be
> specified, and I have a sneaking suspicion that to get consensus on
> a specification might be a bit challenging   ;-)

Which is where MOPS and W32F diverged way back; Andrew McKewan's
implementation differs from MOPS, and imho it's too late to rewind the
clock.

-- 
Regards
Alex McDonald
 




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The same Forth on different OS
surrel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2004-08-18 01:32:13 
Re: The same Forth on different OS
ward@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2004-08-18 08:58:05 
Re: The same Forth on different OS
"Conrad Weyns"   2004-08-20 09:25:23 
Re: The same Forth on different OS
ward@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2004-08-20 07:04:43 
Re: The same Forth on different OS
Mike Hore <mikehoreREM  2004-08-26 11:21:28 
Re: The same Forth on different OS
ward@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2004-08-26 13:48:27 
Re: The same Forth on different OS
"Alex McDonald"  2004-08-20 11:01:38 
Re: The same Forth on different OS
"Alex McDonald"  2004-08-18 15:16:34 
Re: The same Forth on different OS
Mike Hore <mikehoreREM  2004-08-19 09:22:56 
Re: The same Forth on different OS
"Alex McDonald"  2004-08-19 15:46:14 
Re: The same Forth on different OS
stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2004-08-19 11:29:52 
Re: The same Forth on different OS
"Charles A. Davis&qu  2004-09-13 12:18:35 
Re: The same Forth on different OS
stephenXXX@[EMAIL PROTECT  2004-09-14 12:16:59 
Re: The same Forth on different OS
surrel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2004-08-23 02:28:41 

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