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Re: Eiffel's Future?

by Georg Bauhaus <rm.dash-bauhaus@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 10, 2008 at 07:51 PM

llothar schrieb:

> Universities are by definition good for research
> (at least they
> should) but are they able to implement good development tools? I don't
> believe it.
> I haven't seen it.

SmartEiffel development does not seem to be driven by a large
commercial user base, ok. OTOH, the Monash University Eiffel
compiler is well known here ;-). Another commercially successful
university toolset is the GNU NYU Ada Translator, also known as
GNAT. So it might depend on who is working at the resp. university.


> Nobody is
> satisfied
> in this area, because for many use cases the traditional tools do not
> really help here (using multithreading in games is much harder then
> using
> it to speed up a Ruby on Rails webserver).

The _really_ traditional tools seem to be a lot more helpful
than the newer ones, such as C, C++, Scheme, and the like;
I mean, Simula, Algol 68, HPF, ... all know about parallel
hardware and many CPUs.


>  The question is if there
> is a
> future. This hits the question what is a dead language? Everyone has
> it's own
> definition. Mine is that only a language that has many new
> developments,
> new projects and is able to keep up with new technologies (Eiffel for
> Cell CPU's).
> I'm not looking at it in the way of an individuell living being but
> with a view
> on the species itself. And there i don't see a future. It's like
> mankind in the
> movie "Children of men" there everything is also still alive but
> without future.

Well, then everyone missing the one big party is probably with
the dead, be they rich or not.  How is the editor business these days?




 29 Posts in Topic:
Eiffel's Future?
Jeremy <jeremy@[EMAIL   2008-04-05 18:20:16 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Colin Paul Adams <coli  2008-04-06 04:48:26 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
llothar <llothar@[EMAI  2008-04-06 06:35:53 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
llothar <llothar@[EMAI  2008-04-06 06:35:41 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Colin Paul Adams <coli  2008-04-06 15:30:38 
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Marcus Lauster <marcus  2008-04-07 17:18:12 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
J <jocelyn-fake-email@  2008-04-07 18:50:14 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
llothar <llothar@[EMAI  2008-04-07 11:59:51 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
llothar <llothar@[EMAI  2008-04-07 12:08:36 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Georg Bauhaus <rm.tsoh  2008-04-07 22:05:41 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Marcus Lauster <marcus  2008-04-07 22:49:38 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Friedrich Dominicus <j  2008-04-08 10:40:35 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Friedrich Dominicus <j  2008-04-08 10:18:43 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
llothar <llothar@[EMAI  2008-04-07 20:26:37 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Georg Bauhaus <rm.tsoh  2008-04-08 16:04:51 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Georg Bauhaus <rm.tsoh  2008-04-08 16:53:46 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Georg Bauhaus <see.rep  2008-04-09 01:00:04 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
llothar <llothar@[EMAI  2008-04-08 04:44:13 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Eric Bezault <ericb@[E  2008-04-08 15:04:46 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Friedrich Dominicus <j  2008-04-09 08:33:14 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
llothar <llothar@[EMAI  2008-04-09 03:02:28 
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Friedrich Dominicus <j  2008-04-09 14:01:07 
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llothar <llothar@[EMAI  2008-04-10 08:10:45 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Eric Bezault <ericb@[E  2008-04-10 18:03:12 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Georg Bauhaus <rm.dash  2008-04-10 19:51:36 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Friedrich Dominicus <j  2008-04-11 07:30:36 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Colin LeMahieu <clemah  2008-04-08 08:58:11 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Friedrich Dominicus <j  2008-04-09 08:00:05 
Re: Eiffel's Future?
Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.W  2008-04-11 16:16:33 

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