> llothar, we are honestly tired of your negativity. Don't you have
> something better to do than badmouth the small community of
> hard-working, enthusiastic, bright people that love Eiffel?
Looked at your website. And yeah you are maybe a great Eiffel hero, but
your software section does not mention ANYeiffel project of your own.
Just a few patched lines contributed here an there. No own real life
experiences with larger Eiffel projects.
So you are just the typical ivory tower academic guy who never got out
into the real world of software development. Formal methods (alone)
failed in most application domains - i would say in all the domains you
mention on your page http://secure.ucd.ie/products/opensource
(a little
bit more alive in safety relevant areas AFAIK). But this is another
discussion.
So Eiffel is still loosing ground. Has anybody really used SmartEiffel
or VisualEiffel any more in the past. The 1.2 transition failed. The
vision GUI library failed. No new releases. No new libraries (just some
trash included with the CVS version, like the network lib), no tools,
no eiffel projects - (hey where's amber ?). Even gobo doesn't have
more developers, email rate is low and just one new name (who the fuck
is Jocelyn?) in the last month(s) on the mailing list. And this is one
of the most important eiffel libraries.
And you call me a pessimist ?
Still nobody wakes up and see that the commuity is heading towards it's
sure dead.
I like working with LLothar-Eiffel (a compiler based on SmallEiffel)
and i guess i'm one of the very very people on the world who is doing
this almost 8 hours a day, 300 days a year to make a living.
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