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Re: Now where are they?

by Francesco Ferreri <f.ferreri@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 1, 2006 at 11:08 AM

Friedrich Dominicus wrote:
> 
> So where are they?
> 

Here I am ! I'm a happy user of that compiler you mentioned, and I'm doing
the 
best I can to convert young people to Eiffel ;-). But IMHO, the problem is

elsewhere: tools and compilers are quite mature, but there is not a wide
Eiffel 
culture yet, neither in production nor in academic environments.

I can depict a situation about Italy: as regards universities, most
software 
development courses (and teachers) are focused on Java+UML, so newly
graduated 
students can be divided roughly into two categories:

1) those who don't know or remind any programming language (yes it is
quite 
frequent)
2) those who know Java

there is a small percentage of open-minded students who go further, but
they 
usually prefer scripting languages like Python or Ruby :-(

This situation reflects in working environments: most companies have
adopted 
Java or C++ plus some UML and I think they would hardly consider different

approaches. Just before last summer I had a look at job offers for
software 
developers around, I found only one company mentioning Eiffel and DbC in
their 
knowhow, went for an interview with them and asked:

"So, what's the language you use ?"
"We use Java, of course."
"But I read about Eiffel in your brochure ..."
"No, no, just Java!"

that's the way it goes here ...

I hope things go a little better abroad, but until young people won't have
a 
real opportunity to be exposed to Eiffel, at least in universities, I
think we 
won't see much discussion here or elsewhere.

Best regards,
Francesco




 15 Posts in Topic:
Now where are they?
Friedrich Dominicus <j  2006-12-01 08:42:16 
Re: Now where are they?
Francesco Ferreri <f.f  2006-12-01 11:08:14 
Re: Now where are they?
"llothar" <l  2006-12-08 16:00:29 
Re: Now where are they?
Colin Paul Adams <coli  2006-12-09 05:58:37 
Re: Now where are they?
"llothar" <l  2006-12-09 13:49:42 
Re: Now where are they?
"kiniry@[EMAIL PROTE  2006-12-10 02:09:36 
Re: Now where are they?
Friedrich Dominicus <j  2006-12-11 08:14:43 
Re: Now where are they?
"llothar" <l  2006-12-10 11:33:36 
Re: Now where are they?
"llothar" <l  2006-12-11 15:44:38 
Re: Now where are they?
Eric Bezault <ericb@[E  2006-12-12 10:03:26 
Re: Now where are they?
"llothar" <l  2006-12-12 04:33:05 
Re: Now where are they?
Georg Bauhaus <bauhaus  2006-12-12 16:43:41 
Re: Now where are they?
pgc323@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-12-13 03:22:01 
Re: Now where are they?
Friedrich Dominicus <j  2006-12-13 18:23:21 
Re: Now where are they?
Friedrich Dominicus <j  2006-12-13 18:27:41 

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