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Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners

by krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 31, 2008 at 12:54 PM

In article <23f03e11-2f3a-41b9-97ec-f4f287710559
@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, penang@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
> On Jan 30, 9:57 pm, "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <urj...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
> > pg wrote:
> > > On Jan 29, 11:23 am, George Neuner <gneuner2/@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:48:18 -0800 (PST), pg <pen...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > >>> On Jan 28, 2:00 am, rpl <plinna...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >>>> I'm all for the OP using '98, but it occurs to me that they might
be
> > >>>> able to get $40-50 for each win98se cd/license on e-bay or
something.
> > >>> We got a whole stack of Win98SE CD, all genuine Microsoft issue!
That
> > >>> enables us to use Win98SE without fear that the government will
raid
> > >>> us with flimsy "copyright violation" or even "multimedia piracy"
> > >>> excuses.
> > >>> Not that we do anything illegal (we are trying to do the right
thing
> > >>> in a crime infested slum area), but the government the rule
Malaysia
> > >>> does not like our religion (hint, hint) nor the race of our
> > >>> volunteers / target audience. (but that's politics, dirty and ugly
> > >>> politics, offtopic here, sorry!) But it happened elsewhere to
other
> > >>> Catholic run operations ! We just have to be careful, that's all.
> > >> But the previous poster had a point.  You could sell the Windows
CDs
> > >> and use Linux for free.  Obviously I don't know the local politics,
> > >> but I don't think the authorities would bust you for using free
> > >> software.  It's more likely they'll bust you for letting the
children
> > >> access forbidden web sites.
> >
> > >> George
> > >> --
> > >> for email reply remove "/" from address
> >
> > > People have been arrested of having Linux CDs, for the authority
> > > doesn't differentiate what programs are in the CDs. As long as the
CD
> > > has computer programs, and if it's not "official release" with
> > > "official license" like what Microsoft offers (stickers and such),
the
> > > authority here will charge you for "PIRACY".
> >
> > > The penalty is heavy - RM20,000 (about 6,800USD) for each "pirate"
CD.
> >
> > > That's Malaysia, and I kid you not !
> >
> > Does that mean that you can't back up the programs and data from your
> > hard disk to CD?
> 
> 
> If someone filed a complaint to the government, then you're right,
> you'd be busted. In Malaysia, it's "Guilty until proven innocent". So
> you'd be hauled into jail, hauled into the court, et cetera, before
> you even got the chance to prove that you're innocent.
> 
> In everyday life, people do backups. As long as nobody file any
> complaints, you're okay.
> 
> But in our case, the operation is run by Catholic people - and the
> government really doesn't like Christians of any kind, except that
> they do not have the law yet to ban Christianity. So all it takes if
> someone, even an anonymous tip, to the authority and next thing you
> know you are facing a judge, hiring a lawyer, and the case will linger
> up to 8 years. (Justice system here is really corrupted)

If it's really that bad, it seems there is no hope for one in your 
position.  CYA with M$ isn't going to help if someone is out to get 
you.
 
> Meanwhile, what the children are going to do? Back to the street
> selling drugs and/or selling their bodies?
> 
Indeed that sounds like what the government wants.

-- 
Keith
 




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Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Maciej Katafiasz <math  2008-01-27 14:54:25 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
grue@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-01-27 20:47:25 
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krw <kkk@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-27 18:28:34 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
rpl <plinnane3@[EMAIL   2008-01-27 18:52:35 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
winston19842005 <bjjly  2008-01-27 18:58:11 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
George Neuner <gneuner  2008-01-29 14:16:52 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
winston19842005 <bjjly  2008-01-29 14:49:57 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
krw <kkk@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-27 19:26:43 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Lon <lon.stowell@[EMAI  2008-01-27 19:02:30 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
krw <kkk@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-27 21:18:49 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Lon <lon.stowell@[EMAI  2008-01-27 19:25:39 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
krw <kkk@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-27 21:48:25 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
rpl <plinnane3@[EMAIL   2008-01-27 22:44:00 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
kkt <kkt@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-27 21:45:51 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-01-28 01:30:39 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
krw <kkk@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-28 18:35:23 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
winston19842005 <bjjly  2008-01-28 18:48:40 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
rpl <plinnane3@[EMAIL   2008-01-28 05:00:37 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
George Neuner <gneuner  2008-01-29 14:23:10 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
"John Thingstad"  2008-01-30 11:38:36 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Morten Reistad <first@  2008-01-30 12:55:07 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
George Neuner <gneuner  2008-01-30 13:28:39 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Morten Reistad <first@  2008-02-02 15:04:59 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Peter Flass <Peter_Fla  2008-01-28 18:06:11 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-28 20:12:50 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Maciej Katafiasz <math  2008-01-30 20:05:48 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-01-31 00:57:01 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-31 12:54:35 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Morten Reistad <first@  2008-02-02 15:20:07 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Peter Flass <Peter_Fla  2008-01-28 18:00:15 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-28 20:15:50 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
rpl <plinnane3@[EMAIL   2008-01-29 00:10:28 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
kkt <kkt@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-27 15:52:33 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Gene Wirchenko <genew@  2008-01-27 21:27:49 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Lon <lon.stowell@[EMAI  2008-01-27 17:32:14 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Peter Flass <Peter_Fla  2008-01-28 18:02:40 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
George Neuner <gneuner  2008-01-29 14:37:36 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-01-28 00:42:05 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Maciej Katafiasz <math  2008-01-30 11:22:39 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
George Neuner <gneuner  2008-01-30 13:23:06 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Maciej Katafiasz <math  2008-01-30 11:25:19 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Maciej Katafiasz <math  2008-01-30 20:10:53 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
"John Thingstad"  2008-01-30 22:29:20 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Morten Reistad <first@  2008-02-02 15:14:00 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Peter Flass <Peter_Fla  2008-02-02 14:13:02 
Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners
Maciej Katafiasz <math  2008-01-30 22:40:15 

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