pg wrote:
> The computers will be Windows 98SE based, with Pentium III or better
> CPU, 256MB of RAM each. Graphic is VGA, mostly S3-powered graphic
> cards.
Pentium III are already pretty fast.
I have developed a few years on an Pentium II 300MHz,
before I got my Pentium IV.
I had 192 MB, and WinXP ran quite well on it.
At the time I had used it,
I had absolutely no experience with Linux,
and I feared it's complexity.
But that's long over.
Now I'm using several Linuxes, and especially Kubuntu is great & easy.
> I am thinking of installing Logo for them, but before I do that, I do
> need to ask the Gurus here for help.
I have compiled aUCBLogo for Kubuntu-6.06 and 7.04.
Here are the packages:
<http://www.physik.uni-augsburg.de/~micheler/Logo.html>
You can also try
<http://www.physik.uni-augsburg.de/~micheler/aucblogo-4.8-windows98-debug.zip>
but Win98 itself is very unstable,
as well as the Debug version of aUCBLogo-4.8.
I'm developing aUCBLogo already for several years,
and aUCBLogo-4.7 is quite nice
and can produce high quality 3D animations.
> Before I continue, some background. I'm from Malaysia, a third world
> country, and the children that our computers are for are from poverty
> stricken families. The computers will be placed in a "after school
> hang out place" operated by a Catholic Charity organization. The
> children can understand the Chinese language but not very familiar
> with the English language.
aUCBLogo-4.7 is localizable, but still only ASCII.
aUCBLogo-4.8 can be compiled in Unicode mode,
and the primitives are in parts already translated into Chinese,
as is the user interface.
> Okay, now .. which flavor of Logo do you think best suit the children,
> as well as the computers? Or if you know of any offering from Lisp and/
> or Dylan that suit this task, kindly please share.
On Windows 98 you may also run FMSLogo or Elica, I guess.
But Linux is so much nicer than Win98,
so I really recommend Kubuntu and aUCBLogo or XLogo.
XLogo is also translated into several Languages,
but I guess they use Java, so it might not be as memory efficient.
aUCBLogo-4.7 is a pure interpreter,
so it's not really fast,
but I'm working on a "compile" function in aUCBLogo-4.8,
which already can compile simple procedures,
that use only global variables.
> The computers are all donated stuffs, so they are not really fast, nor
> powerful. With 256MB of RAM each, I doubt they can run any fancy
> programs.
If harddisc space is the problem, you may try Knoppix Linux:
it even does not need a harddisc.
Cheers,
Andreas
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