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Re: Seeking help for learning system for absolute beginners

by Maciej Katafiasz <mathrick@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 27, 2008 at 02:54 PM

Den Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:42:40 -0800 skrev pg:

> The computers will be Windows 98SE based

Please don't. It's the worst possible OS to install for such a scenario. 
It'll be unmaintainable for you, and (what's even worse) will teach the 
kids that computers are inherently unreliable and not to be trusted. If 
it has to be windows, try to get win2k licenses, it'll run on 256MB just 
fine. If you don't have to stick to windows, try a linux (unfortunately 
my personal favourite desktop, GNOME, won't quite run satisfactorily, but 
XFce will, I have used it on a 48MB machine, and it's still easy to use 
set up); for instance Ubuntu is a very easy to install distribution and 
has plenty of flavours, including Xubuntu for which XFce is the primary 
desktop.

I wonder if OLPC's Sugar is currently ****table to anything besides XOs, 
it's designed exactly for the type of usage you have, so it'd be a 
perfect fit.

As for programming environment, I can't really help with Logos, I have no 
idea about them. I don't think there's any pre-packaged CL distro that 
you could just give to kids for them to play with, especially the 
graphical part is lacking. As Rainer suggests, there are several schemes 
that concentrate on rich feedback, http://www.pawfal.org/fluxus/
is one 
of the new things it seems. A Smalltalk would also do, they're all big on 
the "play with things on the screen" side.

Cheers,
Maciej
 




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Maciej Katafiasz <math  2008-01-27 14:54:25 
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grue@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-01-27 20:47:25 
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krw <kkk@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-27 18:28:34 
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rpl <plinnane3@[EMAIL   2008-01-27 18:52:35 
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winston19842005 <bjjly  2008-01-27 18:58:11 
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George Neuner <gneuner  2008-01-29 14:16:52 
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winston19842005 <bjjly  2008-01-29 14:49:57 
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krw <kkk@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-27 19:26:43 
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Lon <lon.stowell@[EMAI  2008-01-27 19:02:30 
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krw <kkk@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-27 21:18:49 
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Lon <lon.stowell@[EMAI  2008-01-27 19:25:39 
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krw <kkk@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-27 21:48:25 
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rpl <plinnane3@[EMAIL   2008-01-27 22:44:00 
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kkt <kkt@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-27 21:45:51 
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krw <kkk@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-28 18:35:23 
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winston19842005 <bjjly  2008-01-28 18:48:40 
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rpl <plinnane3@[EMAIL   2008-01-28 05:00:37 
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George Neuner <gneuner  2008-01-29 14:23:10 
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"John Thingstad"  2008-01-30 11:38:36 
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Morten Reistad <first@  2008-01-30 12:55:07 
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George Neuner <gneuner  2008-01-30 13:28:39 
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Peter Flass <Peter_Fla  2008-01-28 18:06:11 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-28 20:12:50 
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Maciej Katafiasz <math  2008-01-30 20:05:48 
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"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-01-31 00:57:01 
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rpl <plinnane3@[EMAIL   2008-01-29 00:10:28 
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kkt <kkt@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-27 15:52:33 
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Gene Wirchenko <genew@  2008-01-27 21:27:49 
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Lon <lon.stowell@[EMAI  2008-01-27 17:32:14 
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Peter Flass <Peter_Fla  2008-01-28 18:02:40 
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George Neuner <gneuner  2008-01-29 14:37:36 
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CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-01-28 00:42:05 
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Maciej Katafiasz <math  2008-01-30 11:22:39 
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George Neuner <gneuner  2008-01-30 13:23:06 
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Maciej Katafiasz <math  2008-01-30 11:25:19 
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Maciej Katafiasz <math  2008-01-30 20:10:53 
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"John Thingstad"  2008-01-30 22:29:20 
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Morten Reistad <first@  2008-02-02 15:14:00 
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Peter Flass <Peter_Fla  2008-02-02 14:13:02 
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