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Re: Java Batch

by Robert <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 10, 2008 at 10:48 PM

On Sat, 10 May 2008 16:43:06 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 () wrote:

>In article <3t2a24d2jqugnn7qj9tm3uklgeeuah2622@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>Robert  <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:34:34 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 () wrote:
>>
>>>In article <89o924l4fbu4pl6q9u57jc6k455do7donu@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>Robert  <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>On Fri, 9 May 2008 19:14:16 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 () wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <4o472456929lf2sjljessaljgjdhgjhiv0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>>>Clark F Morris  <cfmpublic@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>[snip]
>>>>>
>>>>>>It also
>>>>>>gets to be interesting when two departments disagree on the way
things
>>>>>>should be done or what the rules are.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's for the 200-level (sophomore) courses, Mr Morris: The
Accountants 
>>>>>say 'Do (a)'.  The Manafacturing Staff says 'Do (b)', where b does
not 
>>>>>equal and cannot be reconciled, mathematically, to a.  What does the 
>>>>>Programming Staff do?
>>>>
>>>>Set up an account 'Inventory, finished goods, GAAP Variance' and book
>>>>the difference to
>>>>it.
>>>
>>>In a strict-chargeback shop, Mr Wagner, the cost of the disk space and
the 
>>>processing-time have to be paid by *someone*... if they can't be 
>>>costed-out to a particular department then they come out of IT's budget

>>>and that decreases the CIO's bonus, with all associated unpleasant 
>>>results.
>>
>>I said give both parties what they want and record the difference in an
>>account tied to
>>the responsible party. Let him explain it to the auditors. 
>
>Mr Wagner, when one says a and the other says b... either party is
equallyresponsible or not-responsible.  The accounting-tallies for 
>disk-space, CPU time and XIO counts have to wind up on *someone*'s desk.

Business decisions no longer revolve around computer hardware cost. They
did in the Good
Old Days. If computer cost is still a factor, the company is paying too
much.

>>I recently bought a 200GB disk drive for $80, about one hour's bill rate
>>for a contractor.
>>You can no longer use hardware cost as a club. It's now all about people
cost.
>
>You might be interested in learning thaqt not every system is the same as

>the one to which you attached that drive, Mr Wagner; storage costs at my 
>current client's site are low-to-mid-six-figures per month.

The disk works as well in a SAN as in a home computer. Figure $1,000 per
terabyte. If your
company is paying more, tell them to check out Brocade, McData and Cisco
for fiber channel
SANs. 

If they are paying for direct attached IBM disks, the CIO should be fired
for gross waste
of company resources. 

>(what results, of course, are meetings about 'We have to cut costs!'... 
>and questions like 'all right, our expenses are (n) and you say this is 
>unsatisfactory, what number would you say is permissible?' get met with 
>'... we have to cut costs!')

Either you're talking to the wrong people or you're being played. Don't be
surprised to
when jobs are outsourced to cut costs. 

Instead of learning Latin and Greek, you should have learned Hindi and
Urdu.  You could
easily get a job as Facilitator. 

>>>>For further
>>>>explanation, call the Doc at
>>>>800-555-1212 or email docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"
>>>
>>>Mr Wagner, when my clients discover that calling me on business matters

>>>Costs Money they tend to discourage folks from doing so... and my habit
of 
>>>leaving someone else's name and contact-number assists this.
>>
>>Oh great, another obsolete concept, the one about long-distance phone
>>calls being expensive. 
>
>No, Mr Wagner, the current and applicable concept of 'If I am doing work 
>for you then I am being paid by you; if I cannot be falling-down drunk 
>because you might need me then I am on your clock.'

You're supposed to be available 24/7, whenever the pager goes off. If you
won't do it,
there are Indians who will.
 




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Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-09 18:55:00 
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docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-10 00:34:34 
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Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-09 22:03:49 
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docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-10 16:43:06 
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Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-10 22:48:31 
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docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 03:31:43 
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Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 01:31:17 
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docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 17:59:09 
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Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-13 21:07:21 
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docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-14 15:19:22 
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docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-09 19:10:39 
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"Pete Dashwood"  2008-05-08 14:36:12 
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"Michael Mattias&quo  2008-05-08 10:30:57 
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Clark F Morris <cfmpub  2008-05-08 12:52:44 
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"Pete Dashwood"  2008-05-09 11:28:56 
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Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-08 21:31:19 
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Joe Zitzelberger <zber  2008-05-20 23:24:40 

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