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Re: Java Batch

by Clark F Morris <cfmpublic@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 7, 2008 at 05:34 PM

On Thu, 8 May 2008 02:59:42 +1200, "Pete Dashwood"
<dashwood@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>
>
>"chuck" <charles.leviton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>news:b771707f-7b70-4d26-a01d-ccd21d0e6ef5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On May 5, 11:22 pm, Robert <n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 5 May 2008 10:30:13 -0700 (PDT), Pakku <pa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>>> wrote:
><snip>
>>
>> But attempts at conversions get bogged down with changed business
>> specifications.  As soon as system users hear there is going to be a
>> conversion they want all these new requirements to be incor****ated-
>> kind of like "While you are  in there making this change, why not make
>> this additional teensy change as well" that most programmers know
>> about!
>
>Yeah, users are the pits... Always wanting something, never satisified.
>
>They despise techies and don't even try to understand the basics.
>
>They just don't seem to get it. Computer systems are there for us to
improve 
>our skills. So we can go down the road and get even more money for not 
>providing service.
>
>And what's with this "It's great, but can we just have this one small 
>change...?"   We sweat blood to give them what they told us they wanted
when 
>we did the requirements gathering, and then when we deliver it, they want
it 
>changed.
>
>Like we should be responsive to them changing their minds. As if we had 
>nothing better to do than be at their beck and call all day.
>
>It's time they figured out who the dog is and who the tail is around
here. 
>We can bring them to a standstill any time we want.
>
>They don't understand the awesome responsibility we have to carry every
day. 
>And all we ask is for them to be clear in what they want and be glad when
we 
>deliver it, even if it is no longer relevant. Not our fault if the
business 
>changes and the markets change and the technology changes and what they 
>needed before isn't what they need now... THEY signed off the functional 
>spec. ('Course, we wouldn't have started work if they hadn't...)
>
>Nah, don't talk to me about users.
>
>Bloody wimpy little cry-babies who're never satisfied...

My response to users was ask for things regardless of how hard you may
think they are but be prepared for unexpected responses because the
seemingly impossible may be very easy to do while the obviously simple
may be very expensive to accomplish.  They seemed to accept this.
Unfortunately, putting in a number of changes can mess things up.
Examples are Vista and various other ill fated operating system
releases from various vendors.
>
>Pathetic.
>
>Pete.
>-
>"I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything." 
>
 




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Java Batch
Pakku <pakku@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-02 10:32:17 
Re: Java Batch
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-02 17:40:53 
Re: Java Batch
Pakku <pakku@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-02 11:33:24 
Re: Java Batch
"HeyBub" <he  2008-05-02 14:22:11 
Re: Java Batch
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-02 22:28:28 
Re: Java Batch
"Pete Dashwood"  2008-05-03 11:48:33 
Re: Java Batch
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-05-05 07:57:22 
Re: Java Batch
Joe Zitzelberger <zber  2008-05-20 23:31:10 
Re: Java Batch
Richard <riplin@[EMAIL  2008-05-02 12:20:18 
Re: Java Batch
Thomas Zierer <Thomas.  2008-05-02 22:01:10 
Re: Java Batch
Clark F Morris <cfmpub  2008-05-05 16:12:52 
Re: Java Batch
Pakku <pakku@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-05 10:30:13 
Re: Java Batch
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-05 18:30:34 
Re: Java Batch
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-05 22:22:00 
Re: Java Batch
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-05-06 08:01:33 
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Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-06 12:06:02 
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docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-06 17:56:17 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-05-06 12:38:35 
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Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-06 19:00:45 
Re: Java Batch
Clark F Morris <cfmpub  2008-05-07 17:29:14 
Re: Java Batch
Pakku <pakku@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-05 10:31:41 
Re: Java Batch
Arnold Trembley <arnol  2008-05-06 05:31:53 
Re: Java Batch
chuck <charles.leviton  2008-05-07 05:54:33 
Re: Java Batch
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-07 13:23:55 
Re: Java Batch
"Pete Dashwood"  2008-05-08 02:59:42 
Re: Java Batch
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-07 15:35:05 
Re: Java Batch
"Pete Dashwood"  2008-05-08 14:00:21 
Re: Java Batch
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-08 07:14:46 
Re: Java Batch
"Pete Dashwood"  2008-05-09 02:36:21 
Re: Java Batch
Clark F Morris <cfmpub  2008-05-08 21:00:03 
Re: Java Batch
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-09 19:14:16 
Re: Java Batch
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-09 18:55:00 
Re: Java Batch
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-10 00:34:34 
Re: Java Batch
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-09 22:03:49 
Re: Java Batch
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-10 16:43:06 
Re: Java Batch
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-10 22:48:31 
Re: Java Batch
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 03:31:43 
Re: Java Batch
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 01:31:17 
Re: Java Batch
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 17:59:09 
Re: Java Batch
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-13 21:07:21 
Re: Java Batch
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-14 15:19:22 
Re: Java Batch
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-09 19:10:39 
Re: Java Batch
Clark F Morris <cfmpub  2008-05-07 17:34:04 
Re: Java Batch
"Pete Dashwood"  2008-05-08 14:36:12 
Re: Java Batch
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-05-08 07:05:13 
Re: Java Batch
"Michael Mattias&quo  2008-05-08 08:30:02 
Re: Java Batch
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-05-08 08:42:48 
Re: Java Batch
"Michael Mattias&quo  2008-05-08 10:30:57 
Re: Java Batch
Clark F Morris <cfmpub  2008-05-08 12:52:44 
Re: Java Batch
"Pete Dashwood"  2008-05-09 11:28:56 
Re: Java Batch
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-08 21:31:19 
Re: Java Batch
Joe Zitzelberger <zber  2008-05-20 23:24:40 

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