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Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of

by docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED] () Mar 20, 2008 at 02:36 PM

In article <12s4u31plmj6csf7fgbji575cq3b3nee9t@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Robert  <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:17:47 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 () wrote:
>
>>In article <qtt3u35t5f16ej8v6loh3pfnf3v5d3f392@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>Robert  <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:01:37 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 () wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <s6f3u3dlalc0i5g0jq4gtilg43kke5nm0o@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>>Robert  <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:35:35 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ()
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>[snip]
>>>>
>>>>>>(note - this is a shop that runs on files, not on a database)
>>>>
>>>>[snip]
>>>>
>>>>>select name, separation_date, dirty_money
>>>>>  from employees emp, 
>>>>>          (select employee, sum(amount_paid) as dirty_money
>>>>>              from payroll_detail pd
>>>>>              where debit_account = '6969'
>>>>>                  and payment_date between to_date(20051001) and
sysdate
>>>>>             group by employee
>>>>>             having dirty_money > 0) crook
>>>>> where crook.employee = emp.employee
>>>>>    and emp.separation_date is not null
>>>>>    and emp.division in
>>>>>          (select division from divisions where division_name like 
>>>'Midwest%')
>>>>>   and emp.start_date >
>>>>>          (select min(start_date) from employees where name like
'%Dwarf%')
>>>>>
>>>>>-- Query preparation time: 5 minutes 
>>>>
>>>>Amount of time spent carefully reading what preceded query preparation

>>>>time: not enough to catch a clear and unambiguous note.
>>>
>>>All ya gotta do is write a schema defining the flat files and define it
>>>as an ODBC data
>>>source. If there are multiple files, concatenate them with copy
command,
>>>in JCL, or write
>>>a view containing a UNION.
>>
>>That's just the kind of response I'd expect from a Manager, Mr Wagner...

>>are you considering a career-change?
>
>My parents were married. 

Punchline #862: Your mother's husband is buried in Penobscot, Main.  Your 
father just landed a seven-pound trout.

>
>>(actually... I found out Just The Other Day that they *do* have a
'Reports 
>>Group' just for situations like this and the Reports Group does... 
>>something-or-other with an Oracle loading of the files I interrogate
with 
>>COBOL and DFSort.
>>
>>My tech lead said that the users have expressed a preference for putting

>>these requests into my hands... because I seem to Get More Done.  Go 
>>figure, eh?)
>
>Users SHOULD ask for a general purpose query screen that THEY can run
>without running the
>bureaucratic gauntlet every time.

In my experience, Mr Wagner, people don't always do what they 'SHOULD' 
(caps original).

>If I were working there, I'd sell them
>the idea, then
>write it for them. 

When I started on this contract there was a fellow who expressed a similar

desire; he was told it would be better to address this after the main 
project went live.

After Go Live a bunch of consultant/contractors/hired guns were given 
their walking-papers... he was one of them.

DD




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[OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-19 12:35:35 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
"Pete Dashwood"  2008-03-20 09:57:47 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-20 00:58:24 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-19 19:51:32 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-20 01:01:37 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-19 23:39:40 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-20 09:17:47 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-20 08:23:20 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-20 14:36:56 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-20 18:25:23 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-20 23:57:39 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-20 23:52:28 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-21 09:22:20 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-21 17:23:02 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-03-21 07:49:26 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-03-21 07:46:05 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-21 17:23:02 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-03-24 07:40:55 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-24 21:46:08 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
Clark F Morris <cfmpub  2008-03-20 20:25:43 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-21 00:39:08 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
"Pete Dashwood"  2008-03-20 14:21:13 
Re: [OT] Business Requirements Analysis... Sort Of
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-20 09:22:25 

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