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Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements

by docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED] () Feb 29, 2008 at 01:56 AM

In article <62p0lhF24r975U1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Pete Dashwood <dashwood@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
><docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:fq7bn2$eo9$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Ahhhhhh, the 'Professional Day' routine, or something close to it.  I
>> think I posted about that a while back... let me see... ahhhhh, a
decade
>> or so back, from
>>
><http://groups.google.com/group/comp.software.year-2000/msg/a30a874ee923d7e1?dmode=source>
>>
>> --begin quoted text:
>>
>> 60 miles from Wall St... my wager is that this is the Summit, NJ office
>> where I had an interview... it went sorta like this:
>>
>> PHM: 'We expect a Professional Day out of you... if you have to put in
a
>> little extra time to get the job done then you do it.'
>>
>> Me: 'That sounds reasonable... and if I get the job done in less time
the
>> I get to go home early?'
>>
>> PHM: (odd sound of surprise... kinda like a *snoouurk*) 'No, you see it
>> Just Doesn't Work That Way, there's *always* something more to do.'
>>
>> Me: 'I understand... well, sir, given that situation I cannot, in Good
>> Professional Conscience, work with you on this contract; it is not my
>> habit to allow my time to be stolen and thereby turn my clients into
>> thieves.'
>>
>> PHM: 'Hunh?'
>>
>> Me: 'Simple... if I were to bill you for hours which I did not work
then I
>> would be a thief; monetary matters aside this is not honorable.  If I,
>> being an hourly employee, fulfill your demands that I work hours for
which
>> I do not bill then I allow you to steal time from me; this turns *you*
>> into thieves and I refuse to put you in such a position.'
>>
>> --end quoted text
>>
>> DD
>
>I disagreed then and I disagree now, Doc.  :-)

As the Germans say, 'Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.'

>
>BUT, I disagree less vehemently now... :-) I see your point and given
that 
>that is your position, then you are right that daily billing probably
won't 
>work for you.

It might... but one very important condition must be met.

>
>For me it works. I don't mind them "stealing" some of my time; in fact,
I'm 
>happy to "donate" it, as long as it works both ways. If the minimum daily

>time was 8 hours, then it wouldn't be working both ways and I would move 
>much closer to your position.

Bingo.  It has to be mutual, it has to be multilateral, it has to work 
both ways.  If I put in an 18-hour day in order to meet a deadline nobody 
should blink an eye; I do what is needed of me.  If the Muse descends upon

me and I am granted a Vision of the Beyond which allows me to get three 
days closer to my milestone in four hours... then, in exact and like wise,

I take a day or two off and there's an equal lack of eye-blinking.

Note the very specific condition of '...there's *always* something more to

do'.  It sets me up for a 'heads I win, tails you lose' situation... and I

approach such games by not playing.

DD




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Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
"William M. Klein&qu  2008-02-26 21:24:10 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Clark F Morris <cfmpub  2008-02-27 19:35:28 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
"Pete Dashwood"  2008-02-28 14:51:24 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-27 22:49:40 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
"Judson McClendon&qu  2008-02-28 07:42:42 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-28 12:33:46 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-28 12:10:38 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
"Pete Dashwood"  2008-02-29 09:48:05 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-28 14:33:13 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-28 22:13:55 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
"Pete Dashwood"  2008-02-29 13:07:12 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-29 01:56:52 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-29 08:46:29 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-28 22:05:48 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-28 18:34:31 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-29 08:48:37 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-29 20:47:49 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-01 08:20:18 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-01 12:59:50 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-01 23:44:39 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-02 10:14:21 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-02 23:37:47 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-03-03 10:12:27 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-03-03 10:09:50 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
docdwarf@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-28 10:19:48 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-28 08:15:31 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
"Pete Dashwood"  2008-02-29 10:21:17 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Robert <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-28 18:40:47 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
"Pete Dashwood"  2008-02-29 14:00:49 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
"William M. Klein&qu  2008-02-28 06:10:28 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Clark F Morris <cfmpub  2008-02-28 13:22:25 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Alistair <alistair@[EM  2008-02-28 11:29:41 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
tim <TimJ@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-02-28 19:40:42 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-28 12:57:31 
Re: Today (Feb 26) IBM announcements
tim <TimJ@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-02-28 23:13:25 

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