On 26 Feb, 20:45, "Judson McClendon" <ju...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "Alistair" <alist...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > "Judson McClendon" <ju...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> "William M. Klein" <wmkl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >> > I must have missed the note that moved from "global warming" to
"population control" so I don't know how "abortion" got into
> >> > the
> >> > thread.
>
> >> As for why the original comments were made about population growth in
> >> the first place, you will need to ask the OP.
>
> >> But abortion came up very simply. A comment was made that people in
> >> certain western countries including the U.S. were not reproducing
enough
> >> to make strong population increase a problem, and I listed over 50
million
> >> abortions in the U.S. within 40 years as a factor.
> >> --
>
> > 50 million abortions does not equal 50 million cases of reproduction
> > denied. Many foetuses would spontaneously abort whether or not man
> > gets in the way.
>
> The difference is negligible. You don't abort zygotes, you abort
fetuses.
Actually you abort both zygotes and foetuses. In the UK (and I presume
other advanced societies such as the US although I have some doubts
how advanced the US really is) we have the morning-after pill and that
is very popular and aborts zygotes.
> Once the fetus reaches the point where most are aborted, the number of
> spontaneous miscarriages goes way down.
Still, 95 % of all conceptions spontaneously abort. That is natures
way (or if you bash the bible, GODS WAY).
>
> > Where do you get your 50 million figure from? It had better not be one
> > million a year for 50 years as that would be all too easy to refute.
>
> Just Google'ed >"how many" abortions in the us< and the first page that
> popped up was:
>
> http://www.abortionfacts.com/online_books/love_them_both/why_cant_we_...
>
> Just a quick calculation shows roughly 1.5 million per year for roughly
> 35 years since Roe vs Wade = approximately 52 million.
From Wikipedia:
Though the procedure has had a low rate of usage, representing 0.17%
(2,232 of 1,313,000) of all abortions in the United States in 2000
Not 1.5 million. What would you rather have: 1.5 million abortions (at
an early stage) or to be taxed at a level to allow 1.5 million extra
children to be raised in orphanages at a reasonable standard of care?
At 60,000 dollars a year per child that represents 90 million dollars
per annum. Assuming that you pay tax then you, and other workers, have
to find 18 (years of care) * 90 million dollars extra tax which
amounts to roughly 1800 million dollars each year. Happy?
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