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Re: Java is becoming the new Cobol

by "Frank Swarbrick" <Frank.Swarbrick@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 14, 2008 at 11:54 AM

>>> On 1/11/2008 at 4:25 PM, in message
<5uqc7fF1j5kmlU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Pete Dashwood<dashwood@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> 
> "Judson McClendon" <judmc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:MWLhj.51219$N67.12522@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> "Judson McClendon" <judmc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither do you need to be all-knowing to see that OO is the most 
>>>>> successful paradigm to hit the computer industry. All you have to do
is 
>>>>> look around, and try to accept the reality of what you see.
>>>>
>>>> One could have made very similar statements, with the precise same 
>>>> justifications
>>>> you used to make that one, about Communism in 1960. Did VHS win over 
>>>> Beta
>>>> because it was superior? :-)
>>>
>>> Funny you should say that... I was going to use that argument and ask
if

> 
>>> you still use Betamax :-)?
>>
>> Never had a Betamax machine; couldn't afford it. :-)
>>
>>> It is obvious that VHS could do the job and it could do so more
cheaply

>>> than Betamax. The actual merit of both systems is a subjective
argument

>>> (VHS engineers would never allow that their system is/was inferior.)
>>>
>>> The world voted with its feet and went VHS.
>>>
>>> The parallels to OO programming are pretty obvious.
>>
>> Actually, the reverse is true: OO is the more expensive alternative. 
>> Vastly more
>> so in things like learning curve.
> 
> That depends totally on an individual's ability to learn.
> 
> This has little to do with intelligence (although that certainly helps);

> 
> more to do with attitude.
> 
> I can state this unequivocally having both learned OO and taught it to 
> people with various attitudes and experience.
> 
> COBOL people find it hard because of their ingrained ITSA; novices, 
> scripters and web programmers find it easy because they have no 
> expectation 
> or preconceived ideas about it.
> 
> People with an open mind who can suspend ITSA, or commute it to an 
> ITSLIKE, 
> usually do pretty well, and the learning curve is NOT "vastly more 
> expensive".

What is ITSA?  I assume it's not "Intelligent Trans****tation Society of
America".

Frank
 




 4 Posts in Topic:
Re: Java is becoming the new Cobol
"Frank Swarbrick&quo  2008-01-14 11:54:01 
Re: Java is becoming the new Cobol
"Pete Dashwood"  2008-01-15 09:53:33 
Re: Java is becoming the new Cobol
"tlmfru" <la  2008-01-14 18:33:32 
Re: Java is becoming the new Cobol
"Pete Dashwood"  2008-01-16 10:39:01 

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