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Re: Sup****t Tools

by "Geoff Schaller" <geoffx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 22, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Dick,

You've missed the point. There are some things VO is good at and there 
are some things SP is good at. You want to knock it all - I am saying 
investigate and decide. For the thing Rob wants you can do in SP in just 
an hour or two. Less if you are competent. And it works right out of the 
box with emailing, scheduling, alerts, user customisation, data 
integration, the works. But if you have something light and trim then 
cool. Do it! But don't decry SP just because some sad jock is stuck with 
a slow connection. Perhaps this will be the incentive for them to 
upgrade.

I say ignore these people with slow connections. If they are living that 
far in the past they aren't going to pay for quality anyway.

Geoff


"D.J.W. van Kooten" <public@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:b56b841mieour5a615te3e4am1isl143ek@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:33:51 +0000, "Geoff Schaller"
> <geoffx@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
> >A VO site is cheap and nasty and has absolutely none of the smarts
> >possible with a Sharepoint site. You can also do 10 times in half the
> >development time.
> >
>
> Geoff,
>
> I can't tell about the development time, you might well be right.
> These kind of out of the box products always attract end user who
> think they can now build their system themselves instead of buying it
> from you or me. Sometimes they can, sometime they get stuck in the
> process because they can't solve certain issues which we usually can -
> yes, with VO.
>
> And also, yes, we did invest quite some development in it. But now, we
> have a proven, stable and fast program which we can easily adapt to
> whatever comes up, much more than we could ever do with Sharepoint.
>
> I do strongly  disagree with your conclusion that a VO web program is
> "cheap and nasty". In fact, our web applications are extremely
> reliable and so far we have been able to facilitate almost everything
> we wanted. I doubt if Sharepoint would have given us the same options.
>
> And about the speed: one of our applications is used by dealers of 3
> of our customers in 3 continents. Especially in the USA, a surprising
> number of dealers do not have the kind of DSL speed you and I have.
> Your 6 and my 8 seconds are many times their 25 seconds for the
> luckiest...When our application then appears in just a few seconds, it
> makes the difference between acceptance and rejection!
>
> I always wonder why you plea for using the best, the fastest and the
> most modern, while a serious lack of performance is apparently not a
> concern.
>
> So in short, my advise to Rob is, if you think Geoff is right and you
> can get Sharepoint to do what you want in a couple of hours, AND speed
> is not a concern, then why not use it. But if you want to expand it
> beyond the limited options of Sharepoint, speed is a concern and
> initial development time can be invested, you can create superior web
> products with VO.
>
> Dick
 




 17 Posts in Topic:
Support Tools
Rob van Erk <erk.v@[EM  2008-07-18 13:56:39 
Re: Support Tools
"Ginny Caughey"  2008-07-18 17:57:42 
Re: Support Tools
"Geoff Schaller"  2008-07-18 23:39:50 
Re: Support Tools
"Geoff Schaller"  2008-07-18 23:40:41 
Re: Support Tools
D.J.W. van Kooten <pub  2008-07-19 08:21:18 
Re: Support Tools
Rob van Erk <erk.v@[EM  2008-07-18 23:42:29 
Re: Support Tools
"Geoff Schaller"  2008-07-20 00:13:23 
Re: Support Tools
D.J.W. van Kooten <pub  2008-07-20 18:21:54 
Re: Support Tools
"Geoff Schaller"  2008-07-20 22:47:59 
Re: Support Tools
D.J.W. van Kooten <pub  2008-07-21 19:30:43 
Re: Support Tools
"Geoff Schaller"  2008-07-21 22:33:51 
Re: Support Tools
D.J.W. van Kooten <pub  2008-07-22 10:56:41 
Re: Support Tools
"Geoff Schaller"  2008-07-22 11:15:49 
Re: Support Tools
Rob van Erk <erk.v@[EM  2008-07-22 11:39:46 
Re: Support Tools
D.J.W. van Kooten <pub  2008-07-22 23:13:24 
Re: Support Tools
"Geoff Schaller"  2008-07-22 22:31:18 
Re: Support Tools
Mike Pitcher <mike_no_  2008-07-29 01:03:49 

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