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Re: Shootout (sum-file)

by "Bartc" <bc@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 6, 2008 at 10:21 AM

"Richard Heathfield" <rjh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:Z76dnZQYG-54sb3VnZ2dnUVZ8q2dnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Bartc said:
>
>>
>> "Richard Heathfield" <rjh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:YKmdnTjH8aINu73VnZ2dnUVZ8uKdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Bartc said:
>>>
> <snip>
>
>>>> It's possible C++ and Java have some start-up delays in which case
you
>>>> cannot compare /runtimes/ reliably.
>>>
>>> Rubbish. It takes how long it takes. If WonderfulNewLanguage*= can
>>> process the data in a time comparable to, say, Java, *provided* you
>>> discount WonderfulNewLanguage*='s 20-minute startup delay, does that
>>> mean WonderfulNewLanguage*= is as good at Java over that "distance"?
>>> Clearly not. When you're racing for money, you don't give head starts.
>>
>> But the Java startup isn't 1200000ms; whatever it is, it's no more than
>> 58ms in this case, which is insignificant; probably less than the time
it
>> took to press the Enter key or click the button to start the test.
>
> If it's insignificant, why bother to raise it in the first place?

Because you were testing a benchmark with such a small runtime that it 
became significant! A 50ms startup wouldn't be an issue with anybody, in 
practical terms. But in this case, it could have been obscuring actual 
runtime differences. Perhaps Java was twice the speed of C, after startup,

but your test wouldn't show it!

Your figures also showed C++ to be 7x as slow as C, but in your other post

(where the timings were more substantial) it was only 8% slower.

-- 
Bartc
 




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Shootout (sum-file)
Razik <hrttugd@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 00:22:45 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-05-06 05:49:03 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Razii <hkasdh@[EMAIL P  2008-05-06 02:41:27 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
"Chris Thomasson&quo  2008-05-06 00:45:45 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Juha Nieminen <nospam@  2008-05-06 08:17:49 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Razii <gjtrsds@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 04:44:38 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-05-06 08:28:15 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Razii <gjtrsds@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 04:58:46 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-05-06 09:09:16 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
"Bartc" <bc@  2008-05-06 09:19:36 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-05-06 09:40:22 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
"Bartc" <bc@  2008-05-06 09:59:24 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-05-06 10:07:24 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
"Bartc" <bc@  2008-05-06 10:21:22 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-05-06 10:34:21 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
"Bartc" <bc@  2008-05-06 10:57:38 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Mark McIntyre <markmci  2008-05-06 23:25:33 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Mark McIntyre <markmci  2008-05-06 23:23:09 
Re: Shootout (sum-file) {Soon to be flamefest}
"Dann Corbit" &  2008-05-06 11:47:11 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Razii <gjtrsds@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 05:12:57 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-05-06 09:59:33 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Razii <gjtrsds@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 06:02:28 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
"Joachim Schmitz&quo  2008-05-06 13:08:21 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-05-06 11:17:43 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Razii <gjtrsds@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 06:37:43 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-05-06 11:51:59 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
richard@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-06 12:11:38 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-05-06 12:28:39 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Razii <gjtrsds@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 07:24:41 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
"Bo Persson" &l  2008-05-06 19:38:13 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Razii <gjtrsds@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 07:58:01 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Razii <gjtrsds@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 08:47:01 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Isaac Gouy <igouy2@[EM  2008-05-06 07:44:08 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-05-06 14:49:58 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Isaac Gouy <igouy2@[EM  2008-05-06 08:21:33 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Bart <bc@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-07 12:52:20 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Keith Thompson <kst-u@  2008-05-07 13:54:49 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Bart <bc@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-07 19:30:03 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-05-08 05:53:03 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Mark McIntyre <markmci  2008-05-08 23:33:47 
Re: Shootout (startup)
Razii <uiyffk@[EMAIL P  2008-05-06 02:17:45 
Re: Shootout (startup)
Razii <gjtrsds@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 03:56:28 
Re: Shootout (startup)
Razii <gjtrsds@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 08:50:07 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Nick Keighley <nick_ke  2008-05-06 00:58:28 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Nick Keighley <nick_ke  2008-05-06 00:59:23 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
santosh <santosh.k83@[  2008-05-06 14:14:35 
Re: Shootout (sum-file)
Mark McIntyre <markmci  2008-05-06 09:00:10 

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