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Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?

by gordonb.ll93b@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gordon Burditt) May 23, 2008 at 03:57 PM

>>> It's been some time since I started wondering why the C/C++ languages
>>> do not have a non-null pointer (something like a copyable C++
>>> reference)? [...]
>
>> and what happens if a null pointer gets passed as an argument to a 
>> non-null pointer parameter?
>
>It's undefined behaviour, but the compiler may be able to detect it and 
>issue a diagnostic.  

In that case, I think you just threw all the "safety" arguments out
the window.  If you're going to claim "safety" benefits, the compiler
needs to *CHECK*.  Of course, the issue is still there about what
to do when the check fails.  

In order to be useful, there has to be a way to convert a plain,
old, ordinary, unsafe pointer to a non-null pointer, provided, of
course that it p***** the check.  Here's a suggestion, but I'm sure
someone will think the syntax is horrible.  ifnotnull is not a
function, it's a syntax construct, sorta like if.  The assignment
in ifnotnull(nnp = np) is only done if the value is not null.
The syntax is:
	ifnotnull ( <no_steenking_null pointer variable> = 
	<dangerous pointer-valued expression ) 
		statement else statement;

Just for the heck of it, I'll make the else clause mandatory.


#include <stdlib.h>
	char	*p;
	char	no_steenking_null *nnp;

	p = malloc(...whatever...);
	ifnotnull (nnp = p) {
		... do something with nnp ...
		... like passing nnp to a function that takes ...  
		... no_steenking_null pointers ...
	} else {
		... pointer is null, handle it ...
	}

which is equivalent to:

#include <stdlib.h> 
	char	*p; 
	char	no_steenking_null *nnp;

	p = malloc(...whatever...);
	if (p != NULL) {
		nnp = (char no_steenking_null *) p;
		... do something with nnp ...
		... like passing nnp to a function that takes ...
		... no_steenking_null pointers ...
	} else {
		... pointer is null, handle it ...
	}

>And in a debug mode, it could also insert opcodes to 
>test for null at runtime.

I'll even go so far as to say that in debug mode, it would be a
good idea that converting *one* dangerous pointer to a not-null
pointer should, ideally, involve checking *all* not-null pointers
for being not null, to the extent possible.  This would at least
include all of the not-null pointers with declarations in scope.

Should we also forbid uninitialized not-null pointers?
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Non-null pointers in C/C++?
angel_tsankov <fn42551  2008-05-13 01:06:32 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
Francis Glassborow <fr  2008-05-15 11:00:31 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
"Wojtek Lerch"   2008-05-22 16:51:34 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
gordonb.ll93b@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-23 15:57:23 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
"Wojtek Lerch"   2008-05-24 18:15:37 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
angel_tsankov <fn42551  2008-05-22 16:51:43 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
jameskuyper@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-23 15:57:09 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
angel_tsankov <fn42551  2008-05-28 13:35:14 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
James Kuyper <jameskuy  2008-05-29 10:58:00 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
James Kuyper <jameskuy  2008-06-01 12:35:06 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
angel_tsankov <fn42551  2008-06-01 12:35:16 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
James Kuyper <jameskuy  2008-06-02 11:54:23 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
angel_tsankov <fn42551  2008-06-10 00:56:47 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
James Kuyper <jameskuy  2008-06-12 19:25:13 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
angel_tsankov <fn42551  2008-06-14 03:02:07 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
angel_tsankov <fn42551  2008-06-18 08:45:23 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
angel_tsankov <fn42551  2008-06-18 08:45:31 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
angel_tsankov <fn42551  2008-06-28 19:04:48 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
gordon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-04 01:45:57 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
"Angel Tsankov"  2008-07-08 21:18:29 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
gordonb.4ax5t@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-10 13:02:14 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
"Angel Tsankov"  2008-07-12 18:10:36 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
gordonb.4dbn6@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-13 10:55:33 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
"Angel Tsankov"  2008-07-20 15:07:13 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
James Kuyper <jameskuy  2008-07-21 18:28:00 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
"Angel Tsankov"  2008-07-23 22:51:02 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
James Kuyper <jameskuy  2008-07-25 12:15:29 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
"Angel Tsankov"  2008-08-02 12:34:34 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
James Kuyper <jameskuy  2008-08-07 15:01:26 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
"Angel Tsankov"  2008-08-11 19:05:20 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
blargg.h4g@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-08-14 15:29:10 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
jameskuyper@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-08-14 15:29:37 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
"Angel Tsankov"  2008-08-20 21:30:20 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
John Nagle <nagle@[EMA  2008-08-14 15:30:30 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
"Mabden" <Ma  2008-08-09 12:08:24 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
Jasen Betts <jasen@[EM  2008-07-20 15:07:47 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
"Angel Tsankov"  2008-07-21 18:28:13 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
Francis Glassborow <fr  2008-07-04 01:46:17 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
James Kuyper <jameskuy  2008-06-12 19:32:35 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
Philip Lantz <prl@[EMA  2008-06-14 03:01:41 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hans-Bernh  2008-05-15 11:00:41 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
"Wojtek Lerch"   2008-05-22 16:51:39 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
angel_tsankov <fn42551  2008-05-22 16:51:46 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
Jonathan Leffler <jlef  2008-05-24 18:15:49 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
gordonb.vehsx@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-15 11:00:54 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
Eric Sosman <Eric.Sosm  2008-05-22 16:51:21 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
angel_tsankov <fn42551  2008-05-22 16:51:53 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
Matthias Buelow <mkb@[  2008-05-23 15:57:49 
Re: Non-null pointers in C/C++?
Roberto Waltman <usene  2008-06-10 00:57:00 

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